calmwinds

Just don’t quit you current job. Just take vacation when you come to Mesa until they get you scheduled for IOE.

I suspect many guys went home and are doing what they used to do if their old employers still needed them.

Jazajia

E-Jet training is getting fixed. There is a reason it got the way it got, and the new director of training is doing the right things to get it back on track. It won’t change overnight, but I strongly believe it will go back to normal soon.

calmwinds

How many Ejet FO’s will pass their checkride this month and make it to IOE?

We lost a net 15 Ejet FO’s this month alone. When will we see more FO’s than we lose? To fly the 4 Ejets we sat, we need to push a net 15 more Ejet pilots to the line plus another 24 more Ejet pilots than we are losing. To actually have reserves, we need many more pilots than that.

I trust there is a new Director of Hiring, and I am hoping he will be successful. For now, the stories of people sitting and waiting, and of being sent home during training are appalling.

First recommendation, don’t hire anyone into the Ejet program unless they can actually make it through the training in a reasonable time. Second recommendation, get people in the department that actually care whether the program will be successful. To do that, those people need a decent QOL and a desire to make Mesa’s training department successful.

There are recent stories of instructors sitting around during class and complaining to the students that the instructor even has to be there. Then, he cuts the class short by hours, leaving the new hires on their own.

DonConsult67

Agree with "calmwinds".

We hear the numbers (personnel, E-Jets, and flying) are turning negative...again.

Coupled with the increasingly-disturbing reports from new hires about their training, the way they're treated, and instruction quality, does not bode well for the entirety of the E-Jet program.

We are hearing the same stories and it is more than appalling.

Expecting 39 E-Jet pilots to be on-board in short order is to defy reality. There is insufficient training personnel, insufficient training equipment, insufficient time, and insufficient SIM availability. We hear, despite knowing the resources needed to put the November, December, and January classes through, Mesa didn't schedule enough instructors and did not purchase enough SIM time. Pathetic.

We also hear that management is back to the "old Mesa" when confronted with this. Arrogance, denials of accountability/responsibility, blame everybody else (including the new hires), send BS-filled emails, reshuffling the same personnel, and generally burying their head in the sand.

It's like a fight for the last deck chair on the Titanic ~ you're going down so you might as well be comfortable when you ultimately drown.

calmwinds

This is just crazy. Too many excuses. Not enough action.

With the new CPP, I have some solace knowing that United is still even listening to Mesa enough to enter into this agreement.

The CPP is the first positive news I have heard in 6 months, even if the concrete details aren’t available yet. Assuming the worst, 5,000 121 hours in a UAX jet and a 4 year degree, this will mean some of our senior Ejet captains will have a chance to move on that seem to be stuck here.

But senior Captains moving on will actually highlight our training bottleneck on the Ejet.

No Land 3

Back to the Titanic analogy... It needs a modification.
You’re fighting for the last deck chair, yet there’s a coast guard helicopter with basket waiting for some one to actually get into it to be rescued. That coast guard helicopter is another company, but the people on the Titanic are waiting for the UA/AA/DL helicopter, which may not come, or even refuse you.

calmwinds

Really, there are some guys that really don’t want to do what you do. That is all. And, if Mesa sinks before UA, AA, DL or SWA calls, they will just go to another regional with a signing bonus.

No Land 3

I never mentioned K4 in that post. Don’t care what that other company is, just looking at all the others who did leave for what ever company and are happy. It’s more a comment about the inability or reluctance to save ones self from a bad situation.

calmwinds

We have plenty of those types here. They won’t do what is necessary to become more marketable.

deltajuliet

We’re operating at 6.24 pilots per airplane.