Mesa 3.0
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Magpbs: when will the July estimates be up on the ALPA website? I know you might be flying, just trying to see if the number of estimated lines went up or down. And, how did the number of block hours compare this month to next at each base?
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Oh fun, even crappier trips for July! They have it where you might do 2 legs on the days in the middle of your trip when more legs would be okay, and then stick it to you on your last day when you just want to get home by giving you up to 5 legs!!
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Unless you manage to do a hub to hub leg so where the following holds true.
1. First and last day will always be an odd number of legs. You either start at a hub and end at an outstation or start at an outstation and end at a hub.
2. All middle days will be an even number of legs. You start and end at an outstation.
3. Every day but the last is dictated by where we overnight crews and what flights we have to that city. Crew staging for overnights is the #1 driver of mid-trip days.
So if Mesa only services a city twice a day. Say the late night/early morning flight and then one at noon. Your crew swap has to happen at the noon flight.
This is the same at every airline.
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Pairing 101.
Unless you manage to do a hub to hub leg so where the following holds true.
1. First and last day will always be an odd number of legs. You either start at a hub and end at an outstation or start at an outstation and end at a hub.
2. All middle days will be an even number of legs. You start and end at an outstation.
3. Every day but the last is dictated by where we overnight crews and what flights we have to that city. Crew staging for overnights is the #1 driver of mid-trip days.
So if Mesa only services a city twice a day. Say the late night/early morning flight and then one at noon. Your crew swap has to happen at the noon flight.
This is the same at every airline.
Unless you manage to do a hub to hub leg so where the following holds true.
1. First and last day will always be an odd number of legs. You either start at a hub and end at an outstation or start at an outstation and end at a hub.
2. All middle days will be an even number of legs. You start and end at an outstation.
3. Every day but the last is dictated by where we overnight crews and what flights we have to that city. Crew staging for overnights is the #1 driver of mid-trip days.
So if Mesa only services a city twice a day. Say the late night/early morning flight and then one at noon. Your crew swap has to happen at the noon flight.
This is the same at every airline.
Thank you for the tutorial. I appreciate you
and your teams efforts on our behalf.
I wish we had more 28 hour 4-days (like some of our competition) and fewer two leg days in the middle. I would like to have a 12 day working month (and 18 days off per month) like some of my friends at other regionals.
My biggest complaint about flying at Mesa deal with its inept ability for the training department to get pilots to the line, and what that inept ability does to the QOL for line pilots.
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I think some of this is how AA views it’s non-wholly owned regionals and what type of flying it gives us versus Envoy.
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(Every airline) except Allegiant. :-)
Thank you for the tutorial. I appreciate you
and your teams efforts on our behalf.
I wish we had more 28 hour 4-days (like some of our competition) and fewer two leg days in the middle. I would like to have a 12 day working month (and 18 days off per month) like some of my friends at other regionals.
My biggest complaint about flying at Mesa deal with its inept ability for the training department to get pilots to the line, and what that inept ability does to the QOL for line pilots.
Thank you for the tutorial. I appreciate you
and your teams efforts on our behalf.
I wish we had more 28 hour 4-days (like some of our competition) and fewer two leg days in the middle. I would like to have a 12 day working month (and 18 days off per month) like some of my friends at other regionals.
My biggest complaint about flying at Mesa deal with its inept ability for the training department to get pilots to the line, and what that inept ability does to the QOL for line pilots.
Says the pilot who likes to lick the boots of his bosses.
Apparently, we can now add Mesa's MEC to that list.
So what exactly do you appreciate? The wage disparity? How about the FO starting pay that actually DECREASES during the life of the contract? The disproportionately-high cost of mediocre medical and dental insurance? The consistently unproductive pairings?
And then there's reserve. Base assisting on a random basis? Airport standby on a regular basis?
Oh, here's one . . . the MEC is suing Mesa in federal court for paying bonuses to new-hire pilots without negotiating said bonuses with ALPA first, while simultaneously taking union 'dues' out of these same bonuses when they're paid to a pilot.
I could go on and on. The company is holding all the cards. The pilots are begging for scraps. The 'union' is taking 'protection' money from our paychecks - ostensibly to 'protect' us from all this.
Except they're not.
What a deal, huh?
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