Question for any former army RW pilots
More specifically any former WO's. I'll have 2 years left on an adso this summer but only 1 year til I board for 3. At what point should I tell HRC I don't want to consider promotion and intend to ride out my adso and separate from the army? Also has anyone gone through the process recently to shed some light on how it works?
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Originally Posted by KSUto64
(Post 2320159)
More specifically any former WO's. I'll have 2 years left on an adso this summer but only 1 year til I board for 3. At what point should I tell HRC I don't want to consider promotion and intend to ride out my adso and separate from the army? Also has anyone gone through the process recently to shed some light on how it works?
Also know that as soon as you indicate you're bouncing, you can expect center of mass OERs, limited to no flight time if flight time is limited for your company/battalion (unless your IP/MTP services are really needed), and crap additional duties. I gave notice right before a deployment, 12 months from sep date while I was in command, so that wasn't a factor. Did the deployment, flew a lot, couldn't exactly get any more additional duties as a commander, etc. But everyone else I know who got out experienced it to some degree depending on the unit and commanders who consider you no longer on the team. No need to take up limited flight hours or ACOM ratings for someone who has no future in the army, at least that's how it was explained to me. Not to mention every soldier I ever had, PFC-W4, who was separating, milked the transition assistance programs/ACAP process, and were ghosts most of the time. I did it too after I changed command. |
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 2320380)
Also know that as soon as you indicate you're bouncing, you can expect center of mass OERs
Try not to get screwed. Talk to your senior rater. Who knows, you may find yourself back in uniform, (active, NG or Reserve) and the bad rating will hurt. |
Originally Posted by OuterMarker
(Post 2320398)
This is true and sometimes it's even worst. You may get a below center of mass from someone who is trying to balance a ratings profile with too many top blocks. As a rater, I tried not to do this to good guys even if they were getting out, but most do.
Full disclosure - I retired as the system was changing, so perhaps profiling is more difficult now, but giving a guy a BCOM who truly doesn't deserve one, bailing or not, is crap. |
I never had to give bcoms and never heard of any profile requiring it. But I got out almost 3 years ago, so maybe it changed.
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
(Post 2320539)
Many give BCOM??? That's absolute garbage,
Full disclosure - I retired as the system was changing, so perhaps profiling is more difficult now, but giving a guy a BCOM who truly doesn't deserve one, bailing or not, is crap. |
See if you can get a Guard or Reserve unit to take you, and then apply to fulfill your ADSO with them. I've seen that approved before. I wouldn't scuttle a career or burn any bridges. If you're interested in an airline career, you may find that having an affiliation with the Guard or Reserve will help you when things go "South" at the airline. It did for me. I quit active duty three times, and eventually got dragged back into the Regular Army for my retirement. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
(Post 2320539)
Many give BCOM??? That's absolute garbage, and something I've personally never seen. I get the COM and experienced it when I announced my intention of retiring at 20 and 11 days - honestly deserved COM near the end:D - but BCOM? Yeah you have to manage and can't throw out ACOMs willy nilly, but if you're handing out BCOMs to 'manage' your profile, you shouldn't be rating folks. (not saying you personally).
Full disclosure - I retired as the system was changing, so perhaps profiling is more difficult now, but giving a guy a BCOM who truly doesn't deserve one, bailing or not, is crap. Not every unit maybe, but I've been doing this 19 years , so take my words with a grain of salt if you want. You've got a 50/50 chance I figure, because if you knew you'd be good, you wouldn't have came here to ask. |
Don't be cowed by the threat of a bad report. It's not that important. Believe me. You have the courage to fly a helicopter into a fire fight. Don't be terrified by a piece of paper.
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Don't accept it. Be very focused on getting your last per completed before going on terminal leave. After 28 yrs I was treated like a quitter because I wanted to retire instead of getting promoted to cw5. Not even an ets award.
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