Young&dumb ANG pilot select looking for advic
08-12-2017, 06:25 AM
#12
Permanent Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,677
take it easy on the high-risk activities.
I know 2 guys who were seriously injured while waiting for AMS/OTS class dates.
1. tore ACL on basketball court - medically disqualified, lost UPT slot.
2. broke leg on ski slope - delayed UPT by a year.
just be careful and congrats.
I know 2 guys who were seriously injured while waiting for AMS/OTS class dates.
1. tore ACL on basketball court - medically disqualified, lost UPT slot.
2. broke leg on ski slope - delayed UPT by a year.
just be careful and congrats.
08-12-2017, 11:42 PM
#13
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 32
Congrats on being selected. Its a big deal.
As others have said, for the next 5 years or so I wouldn't even think about airlines.
You're getting ready to go through some of the most difficult training of your life. (If anyone told you that UPT, IFF or B Course is easy they're a liar.)
You'll hear this a lot but "focus on the nearest threat".
Your nearest threat is staying healthy and getting all your stuff ready for OTS/AMS, keeping out of trouble and being involved in your unit as much as you can in student flight or whatever student/selectee program they have. Get on airforceots.com and sites like that to see what dudes are going through now and what its like. There's gouge for all that stuff.
Your next threat will be OTS/AMS. Get through that. Then you can worry about flying. You'll get taught to fly how the Air Force wants you to do things anyway.
Then UPT, then IFF and then B course and so on.
You cant get to UPT without a gold bar, you cant get to IFF without a set of wings... you get the deal.
There's a wealth of knowledge on the internet (that you should also fact check) about each phase of training.
Good luck!
Flying F22's in Hawaii in the guard? Could it get any better?! Bust your ass for it. Opportunities like this are one in a million.
As others have said, for the next 5 years or so I wouldn't even think about airlines.
You're getting ready to go through some of the most difficult training of your life. (If anyone told you that UPT, IFF or B Course is easy they're a liar.)
You'll hear this a lot but "focus on the nearest threat".
Your nearest threat is staying healthy and getting all your stuff ready for OTS/AMS, keeping out of trouble and being involved in your unit as much as you can in student flight or whatever student/selectee program they have. Get on airforceots.com and sites like that to see what dudes are going through now and what its like. There's gouge for all that stuff.
Your next threat will be OTS/AMS. Get through that. Then you can worry about flying. You'll get taught to fly how the Air Force wants you to do things anyway.
Then UPT, then IFF and then B course and so on.
You cant get to UPT without a gold bar, you cant get to IFF without a set of wings... you get the deal.
There's a wealth of knowledge on the internet (that you should also fact check) about each phase of training.
Good luck!
Flying F22's in Hawaii in the guard? Could it get any better?! Bust your ass for it. Opportunities like this are one in a million.
08-14-2017, 04:47 AM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 187
Current UPT instructor advice:
Do:
1. Stat out of trouble!!!!!
2. Bring a really good attitude to all the training you attend. Give 100% to everything you do. We will teach you the rest at every point of your training
3. Get a job/payoff as much debt as you possibly can.
4. Save $ and start a IRA
5. If time and finances allow, go travel or do something you always wanted to do
Don't:
1. Get in trouble and throw this away
2. Continue to rent airplanes or pursue ratings in hopes of getting ahead. Your throwing away good $ that can be used for #3-5 above
3. Worry about airlines for many years to come. By the time you need to start thinking about them, you'll be fully qualified to get the job you want
Do:
1. Stat out of trouble!!!!!
2. Bring a really good attitude to all the training you attend. Give 100% to everything you do. We will teach you the rest at every point of your training
3. Get a job/payoff as much debt as you possibly can.
4. Save $ and start a IRA
5. If time and finances allow, go travel or do something you always wanted to do
Don't:
1. Get in trouble and throw this away
2. Continue to rent airplanes or pursue ratings in hopes of getting ahead. Your throwing away good $ that can be used for #3-5 above
3. Worry about airlines for many years to come. By the time you need to start thinking about them, you'll be fully qualified to get the job you want
08-14-2017, 05:04 AM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 187
Current UPT instructor advice:
Do:
1. Stat out of trouble!!!!!
2. Bring a really good attitude to all the training you attend. Give 100% to everything you do. We will teach you the rest at every point of your training
3. Get a job/payoff as much debt as you possibly can.
4. Save $ and start a IRA
5. If time and finances allow, go travel or do something you always wanted to do
Don't:
1. Get in trouble and throw this away
2. Continue to rent airplanes or pursue ratings in hopes of getting ahead. Your throwing away good $ that can be used for #3-5 above
3. Worry about airlines for many years to come. By the time you need to start thinking about them, you'll be fully qualified to get the job you want
Do:
1. Stat out of trouble!!!!!
2. Bring a really good attitude to all the training you attend. Give 100% to everything you do. We will teach you the rest at every point of your training
3. Get a job/payoff as much debt as you possibly can.
4. Save $ and start a IRA
5. If time and finances allow, go travel or do something you always wanted to do
Don't:
1. Get in trouble and throw this away
2. Continue to rent airplanes or pursue ratings in hopes of getting ahead. Your throwing away good $ that can be used for #3-5 above
3. Worry about airlines for many years to come. By the time you need to start thinking about them, you'll be fully qualified to get the job you want
08-14-2017, 09:35 AM
#17
Get me outta here...
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: Boeing right seat
Posts: 1,541
What Adler said covers it.
When it's a good time to go get an airline job, you'll know it. No need to dwell on it.
There's a lot of F-15 DNA in that unit, so I advise you one thing: don't date your crew chief.
When it's a good time to go get an airline job, you'll know it. No need to dwell on it.
There's a lot of F-15 DNA in that unit, so I advise you one thing: don't date your crew chief.
08-17-2017, 01:54 AM
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,988
Originally Posted by NBMafia22
Speak with one of the young dudes in the squadron. If you don't wanna ask them - don't advertise who you are or the Squadron.
08-19-2017, 11:40 PM
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 2,889
I will dispute a little of the advice here....
IF you have the funds, a little glider flying at Dillingham or some acro won't be a bad thing. Glider flying--boxing the wake, and the finesse required will develop the light touch required in formation work. Acro will help you get a little confidence and steel up your gut for your first few flights in the T-6, and make sure before you invest all this time that you really do like flying. You don't need uber-tough stuff--snap rolls, immelmans, etc. A couple of aileron rolls and basic loops, however, might give you a little more confidence in flying in 3 dimensions. If I was gearing up for UPT, I'd spend any effort in those areas, not getting the Commercial/Inst/CFI/Multi, etc. I thought my glider flying did me a little bit of good, and the few times I was on my back made let me know the T-37 wasn't going to scare me out of the water. After all my GA time (I was a CFI/CFII before going to UPT) I ended up in an OV-10 for a couple years, the most GA-like plane in the CAF at the time. When I got to F-15s three years later I was reminded how little of what I knew applied to my new arena.
My advice to guys starting off where you are is consistent--your goal is to "be there next Friday...." Do what you have to do every day to get to the end of the week. Its good to have goals, but you also can get overwhelmed if you don't just take each day one at a time. Do your best every day, and in two years you'll be flying a Raptor off Oahu going "dang--this is coooooolllll...."
Airlines will come. Let's set a date to talk about them...say....August, 2022. We'll pick it up then...
IF you have the funds, a little glider flying at Dillingham or some acro won't be a bad thing. Glider flying--boxing the wake, and the finesse required will develop the light touch required in formation work. Acro will help you get a little confidence and steel up your gut for your first few flights in the T-6, and make sure before you invest all this time that you really do like flying. You don't need uber-tough stuff--snap rolls, immelmans, etc. A couple of aileron rolls and basic loops, however, might give you a little more confidence in flying in 3 dimensions. If I was gearing up for UPT, I'd spend any effort in those areas, not getting the Commercial/Inst/CFI/Multi, etc. I thought my glider flying did me a little bit of good, and the few times I was on my back made let me know the T-37 wasn't going to scare me out of the water. After all my GA time (I was a CFI/CFII before going to UPT) I ended up in an OV-10 for a couple years, the most GA-like plane in the CAF at the time. When I got to F-15s three years later I was reminded how little of what I knew applied to my new arena.
My advice to guys starting off where you are is consistent--your goal is to "be there next Friday...." Do what you have to do every day to get to the end of the week. Its good to have goals, but you also can get overwhelmed if you don't just take each day one at a time. Do your best every day, and in two years you'll be flying a Raptor off Oahu going "dang--this is coooooolllll...."
Airlines will come. Let's set a date to talk about them...say....August, 2022. We'll pick it up then...
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