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Tibhar87 01-07-2019 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Diverb (Post 2737089)
YES, we are affected. Working for free right now with no pay. Problem is once the G is back in operation, they backpay us all on one check and you get screwed in taxes. A couple of us in my office jumped on Mil leave for a few weeks to get a paycheck

I didn't know there were extra taxes involved in receiving all that back pay at once and that can't be good for morale. Hope it gets resolved soon...

tanker 01-07-2019 05:47 PM

What happens is when you get the backpay the IRS assumes that is your rate of pay for the entire year so you have more money withheld for taxes. So when you file your taxes you won't end up paying more taxes but will get a larger return.

saywhat 02-01-2019 07:47 PM

CBP Leadership turns down 25% pay increase
 
Recently the pilots of CBP became aware of our "Leaderships" true feelings about the pilot group. CBP was offered an opportunity to participate in a DOD special salary table for its pilots. The special pay table would have given an across the board 25% raise to the pilot group. All CBP "leadership" had to do was say YES. They said NO!

When asked to provide the reason for denying the pay raise CBP "leadership: state the following:

-AMO does not think putting all locations on the DoD SSR would be beneficial to the program long term

- Concerns with the GS-13 eventually making the same as GS-14 and GS-15's on some of the tables

-There would be no incentive for anyone to take on leadership positions when they would be making the same salary based on the pay cap.

"Leadership" is scrambling now to cover their tracks and the original email chain has been deleted. Most of us are used to having totally incompetent leaders.......(its the government after all). But this is a new low, our "leaders" are now actively engaged in keeping us from getting a pay raise. Pilots are leaving this place as fast as they can get out, recruitment is struggling to get applicants and still they will do NOTHING to keep the experienced people they already have.

For anybody thinking of coming to CBP Air and Marine......go ANYPLACE else. If any airline will look at you you should go there instead. In the long run you will literally make millions of dollars more and have way better benefits.

BeatNavy 02-01-2019 08:02 PM

I honestly donít know why anyone goes to or stays at CBP to fly. Airlines have been hiring for a few years now. Plenty of info and people out there talking about how bad it is, yet people still sign up and/or stay. Sounds like there are a lot of other gigs besides the airlines that are better as well. Anyway, good luck to you all.

saywhat 02-01-2019 08:19 PM

When I got hired at Air and Marine it was a great gig. Airlines were furloughing and I personally knew several unemployed airline guys. I was one of them for a while. The Air and Marine job was a God send. I swore I would never look for another job as long as I lived. Times have changed! There are guys who are planning to stay but usually because their spouse has a good job or because they have fewer than 5 years left. The writing is on the wall......this ship is sinking and most the rats are running for it.

WacoQCF 02-03-2019 06:10 AM

I must also endorse all of what is said above, as a former OAM Pilot (2008 - 2017).

These guys are speaking the truth, and unfortunately the management of Air and Marine has destroyed a great program ...and taken the morale with it.

Every OAM Pilot I know is either resigning, or will be headed to an airline as soon as they hit retirement eligibility. For those stuck with less than 7 years to retire, they are simply bearing with the scenario they are given.

What OAM will likely end up with is a bunch of low time rotor or commercial airplane pilots looking to build time to 1500 hours (and maybe a King Air type rating) before they can leave.

JamesNoBrakes 02-03-2019 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by saywhat (Post 2754771)
-There would be no incentive for anyone to take on leadership positions when they would be making the same salary based on the pay cap.

That's funny, because that's the way it is in the FAA. When you become a manager, you get a 7% pay-bump, but it's based on your current grade, so if you are a 13, you can end up making less money than the 14 principal inspectors that work for you. It's been this way since...forever. Then there's the pay steps, so again, regardless of your grade, there's no guarantee that taking a management/leadership position will net you any more money. The way it works most of the time is people wait until they are a high 14 and then make the move to a manager, which has the added bonus of getting someone in there that's actually done the job for a while and knows what they are doing. Unfortunately, we are hurting so much for managers (and people in general) that sometimes short term 13s or people that have been inspectors for only a year have jumped to management positions, which often ends up being a "blind leading the blind" situation with lots of craziness coming down from up top. Luckily, I've been spared from that, but I've seen it plenty.

BAJ135 02-03-2019 10:38 AM

Everything these guys have written is true. I spent 11 years there because I kept telling myself it couldnít get any worse. It was a tough decision to leave but in hindsight it was the best decision I ever made. I kick myself daily for not having left sooner. You really have to experience it yourself to grasp the full incompetence of management at AMO, OAM or whatever they call themselves these days. Theyíve managed to destroy one of the most sought after jobs in less than a decade. If your looking for a job with a steady paycheck, good benefits and a mediocre retirement and not worried about job satisfaction then this job is for you.

This pretty much covers the supervisor to pilot ratio after the mass exodus over the last couple of years.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=elsY08Edgwk

Choppersnplanes 02-05-2019 07:14 AM

Ok folks I just read thru 13 pages of how terrible it is to be an AIA right now. Other than the fact youíll be stuck flying a UAS or C-206. Can someone elaborate on what is making it so terrible? Is this because no one is flying as much as they want? What is management doing to you on a daily basis to make it this bad? Iíll be honest. The reason I ask is because Iím thinking about applying. Iím looking for a job that gets me home most nights with my family, steady decent pay check and retirement. I love flying but Iíve flown enough that if I got stuck in a UAS Iíd be ok with it.

BAJ135 02-05-2019 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Choppersnplanes (Post 2757246)
Ok folks I just read thru 13 pages of how terrible it is to be an AIA right now. Other than the fact youíll be stuck flying a UAS or C-206. Can someone elaborate on what is making it so terrible? Is this because no one is flying as much as they want? What is management doing to you on a daily basis to make it this bad? Iíll be honest. The reason I ask is because Iím thinking about applying. Iím looking for a job that gets me home most nights with my family, steady decent pay check and retirement. I love flying but Iíve flown enough that if I got stuck in a UAS Iíd be ok with it.

If youíve only read through 13 pages you didnít try very hard. All the information you seek is out there. If you want to fly UAS and C-206s this is probably the perfect job for you. As far as being in your own bed every night, good luck with that.


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