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falconkidding 07-30-2020 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by hindsight2020 (Post 3102229)
reminds me of the Hogan thing with United. Is the poly something you can re-take a year later or are you disqualified from ever re-applying for the CBP job?

You can retake after 2 years from what i've read. I asked the poly guy if that was the case after i had failed. He said "the fact that you know you can retake it then, tells me you have something to conceal today and expect whatever's on your conscience to be gone by then"

It felt kafkaesque. Nothing like being lectured "you could have come in here and been honest with me, but you lied and concealed cue 20 minute lecture on honesty and we all have stuff in our past, if you would have just listened to me and told the truth yadda yadda"... My eyes wanted to roll out the back of my head Its like dude trust me i'm not lying about any of this stuff. Like I said it would probably have been a good idea to get a practice run in cause obviously something went wrong somewhere that I could have fixed.

AeronautP 07-30-2020 09:49 PM

I had the same experience a couple of years back. Not a single thing in my past, grew up as a straight-laced Midwest kid, and followed the direction of coming into the poly with a clean slate. By the end of the thing, the smug poly administrator was literally accusing me of anything from smuggling drugs across state lines in an airplane, to hiring child prostitutes in Asian countries. No kidding. I thankfully found a better fit the same day the polygraph went sideways.

PreciousCargo 07-31-2020 05:59 PM

Gee that poly graph sounds scary. And what I'm reading here isnt encouraging at all. It's too bad that people get DQ from it. I thought this place needed workers. I guess not bad enough. I've never taken a polygraph, but reading that stuff puts doubt in my mind. I know it's what they require i look forward to getting that block checked and seeing what they have to say

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falconkidding 07-31-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by PreciousCargo (Post 3102944)
Gee that poly graph sounds scary. And what I'm reading here isnt encouraging at all. It's too bad that people get DQ from it. I thought this place needed workers. I guess not bad enough. I've never taken a polygraph, but reading that stuff puts doubt in my mind. I know it's what they require i look forward to getting that block checked and seeing what they have to say

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Yeah it weeds out a bunch of people. At one point almost 2/3rds of people were failing it. Theres a bunch of news articles from 2017 2018 about it. The poly guy I took it with said his pass rate was about 50%. Which is crazy, cause the questions they ask you are as "easy" as you could think of. They ask about 6 questions heres a "hypothetical" version of what i got.
Is the wall white,
are you in a chair
do you intend to answer truthfully
if asked would people say your reliable
have you committed felony violence against another person
are you concealing any foreign relationships.

They run through them in a random order.

Needless to say I was shocked when I got back from break and was notified I had failed.
Don't worry too much about it maybe i just had a wacky physiological response. I would advise reading about it though cause I went in doing what they said and apparently that didnt work.

PreciousCargo 07-31-2020 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by falconkidding (Post 3102961)
Yeah it weeds out a bunch of people. At one point almost 2/3rds of people were failing it. Theres a bunch of news articles from 2017 2018 about it. The poly guy I took it with said his pass rate was about 50%. Which is crazy, cause the questions they ask you are as "easy" as you could think of. They ask about 6 questions heres a "hypothetical" version of what i got.

Is the wall white,

are you in a chair

do you intend to answer truthfully

if asked would people say your reliable

have you committed felony violence against another person

are you concealing any foreign relationships.



They run through them in a random order.



Needless to say I was shocked when I got back from break and was notified I had failed.

Don't worry too much about it maybe i just had a wacky physiological response. I would advise reading about it though cause I went in doing what they said and apparently that didnt work.

But wouldn't any type of "prep" disqualify you? I'm assuming they ask if you have and if so I suppose you are finished

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ugleeual 07-31-2020 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by PreciousCargo (Post 3102965)
But wouldn't any type of "prep" disqualify you? I'm assuming they ask if you have and if so I suppose you are finished

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don’t “research” how to beat a poly On this website or anywhere else on the internet... you will fail. Nothing cosmic about the questions you’ll be asked for any polygraph (lifestyle, CI, or LE)... just don’t overthink and answer honestly.

falconkidding 07-31-2020 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by PreciousCargo (Post 3102965)
But wouldn't any type of "prep" disqualify you? I'm assuming they ask if you have and if so I suppose you are finished

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Now that i've started reading about it. They are supposed to tell you "stuff you hear in the internet is incorrect yadda yadda" if you indicate that you studied up on it. They expect you will have done some reading on it and have a scripted speech for you. I don't think they can fail you unless you literally say I took a practice test with x person so I could pass this lol. Which if you took an actual practice with someone I'm sure you'd know enough not to say that :D

They didn't ask me if I prepped just something along the lines of what do you know about polygraph (then they launched into a speech about how accurate they are (its science bro!)) Your only hooked into the actual polygraph for 10 min or so(20 in my case cause he was like i'll try it again you just have to be honest with me)


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3102994)
don’t “research” how to beat a poly On this website or anywhere else on the internet... you will fail. Nothing cosmic about the questions you’ll be asked for any polygraph (lifestyle, CI, or LE)... just don’t overthink and answer honestly.

I mostly agree but in my case it didn't work. On a do over I would have researched how to pass not because I want to beat the thing I just want it to be accurate.

PreciousCargo 07-31-2020 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3102994)
don’t “research” how to beat a poly On this website or anywhere else on the internet... you will fail. Nothing cosmic about the questions you’ll be asked for any polygraph (lifestyle, CI, or LE)... just don’t overthink and answer honestly.

I intend on being as honest and forthcoming as possible. The only way to fail is to lie correct? I'm not saying falcon did anything wrong I'm just trying to make sure I understand the "rules" of this exam

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WacoQCF 08-01-2020 12:02 AM

Did any pure civilians (no prior military), or any non law enforcement types get hired in this July announcement? Curious to see if a straight civilian can get an interview invite?

PA16 08-01-2020 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by WacoQCF (Post 3103059)
Did any pure civilians (no prior military), or any non law enforcement types get hired in this July announcement? Curious to see if a straight civilian can get an interview invite?

I am a Marine Vet, so cant answer that, dont even know what the July announcement was, far as I know everything is still backed up until next year for new hires getting a slot in Brunswick for FLETC.

I applied on USAJOBS.com in march and got the tent offer that week, being a Veteran might have helped, not sure. Have you applied on USAJOBS yet? If you get the tent offer things happen quick from there, but I think a class date to start getting paid is well into next year.


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