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emersonbiguns 08-05-2021 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by WacoQCF (Post 3273942)
Note:
CBP OAM just put a 3 year commitment/ $100k training contract in place.

Airlines ditched training contracts long ago as they made them non competitive. The contract is in place only after completing the 13+ week FLETC, and triggers if you fail to complete required training or get terminated.

OAM management just took a move to hold leverage over new hires.

I wouldn't touch an airline with a training

Indentured servitude... always a big draw for an employer in a skilled labor shortage.

hercretired 08-05-2021 01:35 PM

good luck enforcing that.

dapuckstopper15 08-05-2021 01:35 PM

Wow what a joke. That’s ridiculous


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pilotaz 08-05-2021 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by efc4life (Post 3273977)
I laughed at the 3 year service commitment($100k to learn slow flight in a turboprop!) email. Their list of highly qualified pilots with conditional offers is going to evaporate tomorrow.

Probably not tomorrow, it gave 72 hours to respond. So it will evaporate in 3 days

WacoQCF 08-06-2021 02:20 AM

I can’t post a copy of the letter here is the email text:

Dear Applicant,

Air and Marine Operations instituted a Continued Service Agreement (CSA) for all Air Interdiction Agent candidates. You will be required to sign a three (3) year, non-standard CSA that considers the time and expense invested in your initial aircraft vendor trainings. The CSA is authorized by the Government Employees Training Act (GETA) under 5 U.S.C. § 4108. For more information regarding CSAs, see www.opm.gov/wiki/training/Continued-Service-Agreements.ashx.

Please review the attached AIA Continued Service Agreement acknowledge form and complete within 72 hours. If no response within 72 hours your selection may be rescinded. For any questions on the Continue Service Agreement, please send an email to [email protected]

Regards“

WacoQCF 08-06-2021 02:21 AM

Letter contents:

U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION AIR AND MARINE OPERATIONS
AIR INTERDICTION AGENT CONTINUED SERVICE AGREEMENT ACKNOWLEDGMENT FORM
This document is for informational purposes only; it is not intended to be legally binding and does not constitute a commitment to or an official offer of employment with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Air and Marine Operations (AMO). The information included within is to provide tentatively selected Air Interdiction Agents with the details of the Continued Service Agreement (CSA) that would require signature prior to being assigned to training with AMO.
On July 6, 2021, the AMO, Executive Assistant Commissioner issued a Policy entitled “3- Year Continued Service Agreements for Air Interdiction Agents.” In consideration of training provided by AMO, the following terms and conditions would apply upon your execution of a CSA in the event you enter of duty:
1. You will commit to serve with AMO for a period of three years.
2. The period of obligated service will begin the first day of the first pay period after completion of training and will conclude on the last day of the pay period during which the requisite 3-year obligation period is reached. The CSA will detail the applicable dates and training details.
3. If you choose to voluntarily leave the Department of Homeland Security to enter the service of another federal agency or other organization in any branch of the federal government, you will give your local Mission Support Specialist (MSS) at least thirty (30) days advance notice in writing, during which time the Executive Assistant Commissioner (EAC) must determine whether to require reimbursement or to transfer your remaining service obligation to the gaining agency. If you fail to give thirty (30) days advance written notice, it is assumed that you will reimburse CBP on a pro rata basis for direct costs of the completed training.
a. Based on Calendar Year 2021, vendor training, and associated cost estimates, the average training costs tied to a CSA are between $26,000 and $100,000. These estimates are not binding, can fluctuate, and depend on the training assigned to each Air Interdiction Agent.
4. If you choose to voluntarily retire or leave the federal government for outside employment, you will provide your local MSS at least thirty (30) days advance written notice if you do not intend to complete the 3-year service obligation set forth in the CSA. You may be required to reimburse CBP on a pro rata basis for direct costs of the completed training. If you fail to provide thirty (30) days advance written notice, it is assumed that you will reimburse CBP on a pro rata basis for direct costs of the completed training.
5. If you choose to voluntarily transfer to another component within the Department of Page 1 of 2
U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION
AIR AND MARINE OPERATIONS
AIR INTERDICTION AGENT CONTINUED SERVICE AGREEMENT ACKNOWLEDGMENT FORM
Homeland Security, you will provide your local MSS at least thirty (30) days advance written notice if you do not intend to complete the 3-year service obligation set forth in the CSA. CBP will transfer the remainder of the CSA to the gaining component. The gaining component will be notified by CBP and will continue to enforce the CSA. You will not be required to reimburse CBP for direct costs of the completed training.
6. If you are involuntarily separated from the federal government, you will not be required to reimburse CBP for direct costs of the completed training.
7. If you fail to complete a training program that is the subject of a CSA for reasons within your control, AMO may require you to reimburse CBP for the direct and/or contractually obligated costs associated with that training.
8. Any amount of money that is due to CBP as a result of your failure to satisfy the terms of the CSA may be recovered by setoff against accrued pay, compensation, retirement credit, or other monies due to you. CBP may deduct the reimbursement amount from your final paycheck(s) or may establish a payment plan if you show evidence of financial hardship.
9. Acceptance of the CSA does not alter the conditions or terms of your employment; accordingly, the CSA will not preclude or limit AMO from effecting any adverse personnel action(s) it deems appropriate. The CSA does not commit CBP to continue your employment.
10. The CSA may be terminated based solely on the needs of CBP management. Under such circumstances, you will not incur repayment of expenses incurred for any training or associated costs.
You can find general information regarding CSAs on the U.S. Office of Personnel Management website at www.opm.gov/wiki/training/Continued-Service-Agreements.ashx. If you have questions regarding the contents of this informational document, please contact [email protected]. Please provide your response within five (5) business days from the date of this notice. Failure to provide a response within five (5) business days may result in rescission of your tentative offer.
Please Initial One:
___I understand and would agree to the terms set forth above. ___I understand but would not agree to the terms set forth above.
Name (printed):________________________________________ ___ Date:________________ Signature:________________________________________ ________

efc4life 08-06-2021 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by pilotaz (Post 3274068)
Probably not tomorrow, it gave 72 hours to respond. So it will evaporate in 3 days

Received the email Aug 3rd, today is the 6th.

Zard 08-06-2021 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3273983)
Indentured servitude... always a big draw for an employer in a skilled labor shortage.

This made me spit out my drink. Spot on.

emersonbiguns 08-08-2021 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Diverb (Post 3274047)
...worker bees...

Mushrooms?

emersonbiguns 08-08-2021 05:43 AM

Three years after each vendor training? Initial? Recurrent too?

Anyone that takes that offer and signs that contract is certifiable.

Oye.


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