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Old 10-17-2017, 03:50 PM
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Somewhere there might be an interesting story of where this ax came to be ground.
This is what I've been wondering... well, may have I wondered. Briefly.

Or not.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:03 PM
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The FJ-2 was a derivative of the F-86E and the FJ-3 was a derivative of the F-86F.

Interestingly enough many parts of the original straight-wing FJ-1 were based on the P-51. North American then used the basically unchanged wing of the FJ-1 as the basis for the T-2 Buckeye trainer.

But you guys knew that, you guys know everything.
So with what carrier aviator experience are you basing your arguments on.

BTW the accident in question is looking more and more like CFIT. Damn single engine airplane.
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Old 10-18-2017, 05:42 AM
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So with what carrier aviator experience are you basing your arguments on.

BTW the accident in question is looking more and more like CFIT. Damn single engine airplane.
Odd you would go out of your way to impugn the pilots who are deceased. The debris path was a mile long along either side of a road that is over 1,000 feet below the ridge tops on either side of the road. Unless you know the IP had a history of reckless flying your comments are irresponsible.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by F4E Mx View Post
Odd you would go out of your way to impugn the pilots who are deceased. The debris path was a mile long along either side of a road that is over 1,000 feet below the ridge tops on either side of the road. Unless you know the IP had a history of reckless flying your comments are irresponsible.
I'm not impugning anyone ****** I happen to have friends involved in the process. CFIT isn't the result of reckless flying dumbass... it's a simple mistake which when flying a low level into the sun late in the day in mountainous terrain is easy to make. ****

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Old 10-18-2017, 11:19 AM
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I'm not impugning anyone ***** I happen to have friends involved in the process. CFIT isn't the result of reckless flying *** it's a simple mistake which when flying a low level into the sun late in the day in mountainous terrain is easy to make. ****
Well said.

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Old 10-18-2017, 08:00 PM
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All I am saying is that if the Navy had bought, or developed, a twin-engine trainer with a reliable oxygen system there would be quite a few more airplanes on the line today and quite a few more Navy pilots alive. The whole wretched program has 'Political Influence' written all over it, because you really can't achieve this level of stupid.
Feel free to enlighten us on where "quite a few" lives could have been saved with a two engine trainer.
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Old 10-19-2017, 04:29 AM
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F-16
F-105

Lots of dangerous single engine jets.
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Old 10-19-2017, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by F4E Mx View Post
Odd you would go out of your way to impugn the pilots who are deceased. The debris path was a mile long along either side of a road that is over 1,000 feet below the ridge tops on either side of the road. Unless you know the IP had a history of reckless flying your comments are irresponsible.
Unless you've walked the site, I suggest you close your pie hole.

And, yes. I have.
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Old 10-20-2017, 04:21 AM
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Unless you've walked the site, I suggest you close your pie hole.

And, yes. I have.
How about something constructive, like Magee-Tyson 30 miles away to the north was reporting overcast skies when the accident was first reported before four-o'clock - making the pilots squinting into the setting sun while flying a perfectly good aircraft into the ground not too plausible.
I don't think there is any indication it was the pilots' fault and every other avenue needs to be exhausted before going there. I am sorry if you don't like my comments. Actually, hold that, I don't really care if you like my comments or not.
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Originally Posted by F4E Mx View Post
How about something constructive, like Magee-Tyson 30 miles away to the north was reporting overcast skies when the accident was first reported before four-o'clock - making the pilots squinting into the setting sun while flying a perfectly good aircraft into the ground not too plausible.
I don't think there is any indication it was the pilots' fault and every other avenue needs to be exhausted before going there. I am sorry if you don't like my comments. Actually, hold that, I don't really care if you like my comments or not.
In my previous life I was an ASO who had to work fatal aviation mishaps... I just can't convey in words how obvious it is that you know little to nothing about these things. Is this some kind of compulsion? A "need" to troll perhaps?
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