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Old 10-26-2017, 10:28 AM   #71
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What does any of that have to do with the dumbfoundingly stupid things you've said on this thread?
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:40 AM   #72
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What does any of that have to do with the dumbfoundingly stupid things you've said on this thread?
Besides being infantile, you people are hopeless. I'm done.
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:39 PM   #73
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I'm done.
Best news I've heard all day.
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:49 PM   #74
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Besides being infantile, you people are hopeless. I'm done.
Score. Thanks.
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:02 PM   #75
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I've been to Aviation Maintenance Officer School and held a variety of different Maintenance Officer positions in numerous fleet and training squadrons over a 20 year career - and I regularly drink coffee down in my current maintenance office and jaw-jack with our maintainers.

Guess I'm an expert in maintenance issues too!

This has been one of the most interesting threads I've seen in awhile that had to do with obvious 'out of one's element' sidebars.

Now - back on track.............
Can anyone share anything that has been put out for public consumption about the probable cause?
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:02 PM   #76
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I've been to Aviation Maintenance Officer School and held a variety of different Maintenance Officer positions in numerous fleet and training squadrons over a 20 year career - and I regularly drink coffee down in my current maintenance office and jaw-jack with our maintainers.

Guess I'm an expert in maintenance issues too!

This has been one of the most interesting threads I've seen in awhile that had to do with obvious 'out of one's element' sidebars.

Now - back on track.............
Can anyone share anything that has been put out for public consumption about the probable cause?
You know better than that.
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Old 10-26-2017, 04:57 PM   #77
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You know better than that.
That is why I asked for info available to the public.
I haven't been following the mishap in the news.
Anything of substance in any follow-on news articles (if there have been any)?
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:20 PM   #78
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https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...ee-t-45-crash/

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"The Navy’s official investigation into the Oct. 1 crash in rural Tennessee of a T-45C Goshawk from Training Squadron 7 concluded the crash was the fault
of the instructor pilot, even though at the time of impact, he wasn’t at the controls.

Investigators said that the instructor pilot was “flat-hatting” by flying and directing his student to fly too close and too fast to ground, which is against the
Navy’s procedure for such training of student pilots, the Navy’s investigation into the crash concluded.

The report also said that the investigation shows that such out-of-bounds flights and unauthorized training had become part of culture in the VT-7, but
also throughout all the Navy’s tactical jet training, which investigators called a “failure of leadership.”"
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Bynum also said it was questionable that Ruth was even qualified to fly the T-45C or teach the low-level maneuvers, because there was no record he’d completed the requisite training in the T-45C himself
Is this for real? IP not qualified to fly the T-45C? Hopefully this is bad reporting or it was a lost record and had the requisite training, but in an investigation like that, I'd imagine no stone would remain unturned to find said records.

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More than likely what they meant was that he wasn't qualified to be teaching in the STRIKE phase of T-45 training which would include the low level training - - - - not that he wasn't qualified to teach in the airplane.

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"Following completion of his training syllabus at the E-2C Hawkeye Fleet Replacement Squadron, Patrick reported to VAW-126 in Norfolk, VA."
Edit: Now after reading the article (yes I answered before reading the article :roll eyes, it does say:
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Bynum noted that the flight’s purpose was low altitude awareness training and they were initially on an approved training route, but that the instructor, Ruth, deviated from proper procedure and also encouraged Burch to do the same.
My guess was that he wasn't STRIKE qualified and doing low levels, but this last sentence seems to say otherwise; if he was truly getting low level 'Xs' per the flight schedule, unless it was a oversight that he had been scheduled for this type of training and maybe had not completed the STRIKE IUT syllabus, therefore not being qualified yet.
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