Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
(Post 2477039)
Um what airline do you work for? I want to work there where I can average 10 credit hours a day. Thanks
It also sounds like a seniority based refusal option for trips based on his new hire comment. Probably have long/short call reserve options too. I seriously doubt you can find a reserve system worse than the one we have a FedEx. |
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 2477094)
Clearly sitting reserve living in domicile, getting called out infrequently and only counting actual fly days as work.
It also sounds like a seniority based refusal option for trips based on his new hire comment. Probably have long/short call reserve options too. I seriously doubt you can find a reserve system worse than the one we have a FedEx. Basically, if I have one day of vacation in a month I can set my min PBS threshold to 65 hours but I will still be paid at 75 hours. Since I’m senior enough to bid all the carry over months in a year, that’s 8 months of the year where I only need 65 hours of credit but get paid for 75 hours. We will be losing it soon. |
Originally Posted by Dirty30
(Post 2476904)
That's the way to do it... I know I'm going to live less than an hour away from the mil base, but I'm thinking I'll have a long drive or commute by air to the airline base. I'm just trying to get a feel for what the lifestyle is like before it comes time to make a decision, since there's no telling how the regionals are gonna be in a few months.
Some airlines are better about it than others. I’ve heard of some (GoJet), giving pilots a hard time. At mine it was never an issue. I just had my Guard unit send scheduling a copy of a memo or orders and the portions of my trip that conflicted were dropped. If I did not pick anything else up (I normally didn’t), my pay was prorated for the month. As an IP I pretty much got to fly whenever I wanted to fly. |
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 2476768)
...One leg, sleep in a hotel for 6 hours, one leg back, sleep in the ready room for about 3 hours, fly a hop for the Guard...
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
(Post 2477039)
Um what airline do you work for? I want to work there where I can average 10 credit hours a day. Thanks
One day turns LAX-OGG or KOA or HNL. 10.5 actual on the DC-8 and DC-10. The most senior dude in the base in each crew position would do this on Tuesdays and Thursdays for an 84 hour month. The best I ever held was Mondays and Wednesdays. Joe |
Originally Posted by F15andMD11
(Post 2477371)
Each unit varies obviously but what you described certainly wouldn't cut it in the ANG.
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
(Post 2477039)
Um what airline do you work for? I want to work there where I can average 10 credit hours a day. Thanks
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 2477094)
Clearly sitting reserve living in domicile, getting called out infrequently and only counting actual fly days as work.
It also sounds like a seniority based refusal option for trips based on his new hire comment. Probably have long/short call reserve options too. I seriously doubt you can find a reserve system worse than the one we have a FedEx.
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 2477130)
My company messed up in our last contract and gave us something called “Vacation Low”. ALPA National even warned our management that it was a bad idea, but they were so anxious to get PBS they agreed to it anyway.
Basically, if I have one day of vacation in a month I can set my min PBS threshold to 65 hours but I will still be paid at 75 hours. Since I’m senior enough to bid all the carry over months in a year, that’s 8 months of the year where I only need 65 hours of credit but get paid for 75 hours. We will be losing it soon. JB’s come pretty close though from what I hear. |
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 2476768)
One leg, sleep in a hotel for 6 hours, one leg back, sleep in the ready room for about 3 hours, fly a hop for the Guard, do it again.
To then sleep in "the ready room for about 3 hours" and go fly for the Guard and then "do it again" is what he's saying wouldn't cut it. Crew rest in the AF/ANG is typically given the big boy approach and that kind of stuff isn't tracked, especially when it involves a mix with civilian flying. Last I knew, the AFI required 12 hours of rest prior to showing for flying duty and that's on you to make happen. You're kidding yourself if you think that schedule was anywhere near compliance. Any leadership aware of what you were doing and letting it continue was certainly lucky they didn't have to answer the mail had you been involved in any kind of incident. |
as a commuter I would do stand ups and Guard flying. One leg, sleep in a hotel for 6 hours, one leg back, sleep in the ready room for about 3 hours, fly a hop for the Guard, do it again. There was a famous F-101 (I think) accident on the Oregon ANG. Pilot flew a red-eye, tried trip-turning that day—fatal collision on form take-off on the third turn, IIRC. GF |
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 2477996)
Are you familiar with 12 hours of pre-duty crew rest rule in the Guard or any AF organization?
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