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NoDrop 12-01-2017 08:01 AM

USAF to try civilian to AF track
 
https://www.jqpublicblog.com/despera...ing-of-pilots/

Voski 12-01-2017 10:15 AM

This.... seems like a bad idea. But I'm not a doctor.

ExAF 12-01-2017 11:00 AM

What could possibly go wrong.:rolleyes:

cougar 12-01-2017 12:46 PM

Real world mirrors TheOnion...

https://entertainment.theonion.com/b...uts-1819570388

awax 12-01-2017 12:58 PM

Yeah General, trading a warrior ethos for a powerpoint deck seems to be working out, eh?.

F4E Mx 12-01-2017 01:03 PM

Brigadier General James Stewart , probably the most famous USAF pilot after Chuck Yeager, never went to Army AF UPT school. He already had a Commercial rating and a lot of flying experience so the Army sent him to Instructor Pilots school instead. The AAF had a Service Pilot program in WW II for experienced pilots and who were over the age limit for the regular program. They were supposed to be in non-combatant flying duties like instruction and cargo flying. Stewart maneuvered his way around that limitation as well.

galaxy flyer 12-01-2017 03:21 PM

Assuming they go to heavies, the first night AR will sort it all out.

GF

tomgoodman 12-01-2017 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by F4E Mx (Post 2475743)
Brigadier General James Stewart , probably the most famous USAF pilot after Chuck Yeager, never went to Army AF UPT school. He already had a Commercial rating and a lot of flying experience so the Army sent him to Instructor Pilots school instead. The AAF had a Service Pilot program in WW II for experienced pilots and who were over the age limit for the regular program. They were supposed to be in non-combatant flying duties like instruction and cargo flying. Stewart maneuvered his way around that limitation as well.

Charles Lindbergh went to the Pacific as an “advisor” who was not supposed to fly in combat....but he did anyway, and shot down enemy planes. :cool:

Lindbergh In World War II

35Right 12-01-2017 10:25 PM

I didnt go through UPT, so help me understand. The first step in AF pilot training is IFT in Cirruses in Colorado Springs to get the student to their first solo. Second step is the T6 for more advanced maneuvering and instrument fundamentals. At that point students track either T1 for mobility or T38 for tactical. They dont get their "wings" until the end of T1 or T38 training, correct?

Again, i'm not a military pilot but i was in a fighter squadron as a support officer and thats what i gathered about the UPT process.

This program is just taking somone who already knows how to fly and is instrument rated and moving them directly to the T1 track. I dont see the problem with that? They'd just be skipping a few months of IFT and T6 flying.

rickair7777 12-02-2017 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by F4E Mx (Post 2475743)
Brigadier General James Stewart , probably the most famous USAF pilot after Chuck Yeager, never went to Army AF UPT school. He already had a Commercial rating and a lot of flying experience so the Army sent him to Instructor Pilots school instead. The AAF had a Service Pilot program in WW II for experienced pilots and who were over the age limit for the regular program. They were supposed to be in non-combatant flying duties like instruction and cargo flying. Stewart maneuvered his way around that limitation as well.


Easier for Jimmy Stuart to work the system than for Joe Blow.


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