Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums - Find your next job as a Pilot > >
Military Military Aviation
 

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-08-2018, 08:37 AM   #1  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 3
Default What are the chances I fly for the military

Hi all,

Newb poster here, long time lurker. Just wanted to get your guys' opinions on my options and chances for flying for a military branch like the USAF Reserves or ANG, which would be an honor and would also help me achieve some of my flying goals since it's so expensive to do on your own dime. My flights goals are to pilot C-130s or other transports and then eventually transition to corporate flying.

Currently, I'm a 30 year old working professional with a BS degree in mech engineering and with a freshly minted PPL (super low time ~100hrs). My biggest setback though, aside from my age and low time, is that my vision is crap without my contacts! I've talked to a few recruiters so far and they've said that I could get waivers for both age and Lasik or PRK, as long as a unit is willing to sponsor me.

I plan on taking the AFOQT / ASVAB / TBAS soon to get those out of the way, however, I don't know if I should jump on the eye surgery right away. I've been told I will need to wait one year after the surgery to be considered for a pilot slot when it's time to do the physical test, also putting me at 31 years of age.

So what do you guys think? Which branch would I have a better shot a flying with? Is there still a good chance that I get to fly assuming I meet all the other prereq's in a year or so or kiss these military flying dreams goodbye?

Also, should I consider PRK or Lasik, and now or later? I've been told either is okay per military standards and I don't mind doing it sooner than later to keep me competitive. The worst I see happening is I don't get a pilot slot for whatever reason down the road, but come out w/ good vision (assuming no surgery complications!)

I know I should have been working on this years ago to give me better chances but life and flying expenses go by quick!

Anyway, love to get your feedback. Thanks.
mistaplane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 09:33 AM   #2  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 40
Default

https://www.thebalance.com/age-requi...-pilot-4054190

You're going to need an age waiver. Probably best to speak with a recruiter and see what they say. Just like with a Doctor, get a second opinion with recruiters. Don't take the first no, if that is the answer you are given.
bennet00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 09:44 AM   #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
PRS Guitars's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: A320 F/O
Posts: 1,431
Default

You donít have to be 20/20 without glasses, just correctable to that with some other top number (maybe 20/200, just a guess), so you likely donít need surgery.

The real problem is you need an age waiver, because you are too old now for UPT. Itís possible to get one but not probable. They have plenty of applicants who donít need one. Iíd say your best bet is finding a unit that flies undesirable aircraft and is in an undesirable location. There will be less competition there. Not saying give up entirely on other units, but trying to give you a realistic outlook.
PRS Guitars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 10:16 AM   #4  
Covfefe
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,040
Default

One reserve fighter squadron has 3 guys with age waivers in the pipeline or waiting to get in the pipeline who are all older than you. One of the 3 is not prior service. Not saying getting a waiver is easy, as units donít like to do it, but NGB/AFRC are approving them pretty easily right now. Unit levels vary but most donít do it often, and usually they go to dudes who are enlisted in the unit. Check bogidope.com, baseops.net, and the pilot network on FB for upcoming board info. Reach out to units. Go visit. Maybe apply to the AFRC unsponsored board...that way youíre at least able to get thru MEPS/FC1 and can potentially secure a UPT slot without a specific unit hiring you. Good luck.
BeatNavy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2018, 09:41 PM   #5  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Position: A shack in Kailua
Posts: 36
Default

Mistaplane, have you considered the Army/National Guard? I know you mention the Air Force but you also mention just flying in the military and Army aviation counts as the latter. FYI, the Army NG has aviation units in quite a few states so your chances of staying local are even better if you aren't near a major air guard base, and the Army has had a higher max age limit for flight school than the other services for a while now. I think it used to be 34-35 and right now it's 33 before you need an age waiver, so at your current age, you wouldn't need an age waiver with the Army. Also, if you go the warrant officer pilot route, you'll fly a lot more than as a commissioned officer and not have to deal with as much of the officer politics BS. If you only want to go fixed wing then go Air Force and try to get an age waiver but if it doesn't matter to you then go Army NG right now while you still can without a waiver and be a warrant officer.
kbay hombre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2018, 08:07 AM   #6  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 18
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistaplane View Post
Hi all,

Newb poster here, long time lurker. Just wanted to get your guys' opinions on my options and chances for flying for a military branch like the USAF Reserves or ANG, which would be an honor and would also help me achieve some of my flying goals since it's so expensive to do on your own dime. My flights goals are to pilot C-130s or other transports and then eventually transition to corporate flying.

Currently, I'm a 30 year old working professional with a BS degree in mech engineering and with a freshly minted PPL (super low time ~100hrs). My biggest setback though, aside from my age and low time, is that my vision is crap without my contacts! I've talked to a few recruiters so far and they've said that I could get waivers for both age and Lasik or PRK, as long as a unit is willing to sponsor me.

I plan on taking the AFOQT / ASVAB / TBAS soon to get those out of the way, however, I don't know if I should jump on the eye surgery right away. I've been told I will need to wait one year after the surgery to be considered for a pilot slot when it's time to do the physical test, also putting me at 31 years of age.

So what do you guys think? Which branch would I have a better shot a flying with? Is there still a good chance that I get to fly assuming I meet all the other prereq's in a year or so or kiss these military flying dreams goodbye?

Also, should I consider PRK or Lasik, and now or later? I've been told either is okay per military standards and I don't mind doing it sooner than later to keep me competitive. The worst I see happening is I don't get a pilot slot for whatever reason down the road, but come out w/ good vision (assuming no surgery complications!)

I know I should have been working on this years ago to give me better chances but life and flying expenses go by quick!

Anyway, love to get your feedback. Thanks.
Dude, look at the Coast Guard. They take people over 30 and flying fixed wing is not too difficult to swing. A lot dudes joined for the SAR mission. Know a girl personally who was an engineer, 31, and is on her way to Corpus for multi engine advanced.
Tannhauser621 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 01:55 PM   #7  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bennet00 View Post
https://www.thebalance.com/age-requi...-pilot-4054190

You're going to need an age waiver. Probably best to speak with a recruiter and see what they say. Just like with a Doctor, get a second opinion with recruiters. Don't take the first no, if that is the answer you are given.
I have come across this website before and have gathered a ton of info from it so far. Thanks! It's interesting though because this site seems more up to date than the existing AF or ANG sites.
mistaplane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 02:13 PM   #8  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
You don’t have to be 20/20 without glasses, just correctable to that with some other top number (maybe 20/200, just a guess), so you likely don’t need surgery.

The real problem is you need an age waiver, because you are too old now for UPT. It’s possible to get one but not probable. They have plenty of applicants who don’t need one. I’d say your best bet is finding a unit that flies undesirable aircraft and is in an undesirable location. There will be less competition there. Not saying give up entirely on other units, but trying to give you a realistic outlook.
I'm getting mixed info about this currently. The way I understand it is you can have vision no worse than 20/70 (mine is about 20/300), correctable to 20/20 if you're just joining but if you are aiming for a pilot slot, you need near perfect vision or have surgery done.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
One reserve fighter squadron has 3 guys with age waivers in the pipeline or waiting to get in the pipeline who are all older than you. One of the 3 is not prior service. Not saying getting a waiver is easy, as units don’t like to do it, but NGB/AFRC are approving them pretty easily right now. Unit levels vary but most don’t do it often, and usually they go to dudes who are enlisted in the unit. Check bogidope.com, baseops.net, and the pilot network on FB for upcoming board info. Reach out to units. Go visit. Maybe apply to the AFRC unsponsored board...that way you’re at least able to get thru MEPS/FC1 and can potentially secure a UPT slot without a specific unit hiring you. Good luck.
Haven't been on those sites yet. Will do right away! and good tips to visit units. After reading some other threads, I think reaching out to units is crucial now instead of dealing w/ these recruiters. Thanks you for the insight.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbay hombre View Post
Mistaplane, have you considered the Army/National Guard? I know you mention the Air Force but you also mention just flying in the military and Army aviation counts as the latter. FYI, the Army NG has aviation units in quite a few states so your chances of staying local are even better if you aren't near a major air guard base, and the Army has had a higher max age limit for flight school than the other services for a while now. I think it used to be 34-35 and right now it's 33 before you need an age waiver, so at your current age, you wouldn't need an age waiver with the Army. Also, if you go the warrant officer pilot route, you'll fly a lot more than as a commissioned officer and not have to deal with as much of the officer politics BS. If you only want to go fixed wing then go Air Force and try to get an age waiver but if it doesn't matter to you then go Army NG right now while you still can without a waiver and be a warrant officer.
Yes I am definitely open to joining other branches if my chances of flying are better elsewhere. I didn't know about the warrant officer route and that the ANG age limit is higher than other services right now which is good news. Currently still researching all the options and pulling info from a ton of sources so this great. Thank you!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tannhauser621 View Post
Dude, look at the Coast Guard. They take people over 30 and flying fixed wing is not too difficult to swing. A lot dudes joined for the SAR mission. Know a girl personally who was an engineer, 31, and is on her way to Corpus for multi engine advanced.
Hadn't looked into the Coast Guard at all. Very good tip. Gonna look into this.

Thanks guys!

Last edited by mistaplane; 02-11-2018 at 02:41 PM.
mistaplane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2018, 09:07 PM   #9  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Position: A shack in Kailua
Posts: 36
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tannhauser621 View Post
Dude, look at the Coast Guard. They take people over 30 and flying fixed wing is not too difficult to swing. A lot dudes joined for the SAR mission. Know a girl personally who was an engineer, 31, and is on her way to Corpus for multi engine advanced.
The Coast Guard is great, and I say that having worked with them numerous times over my career. With that said, they do NOT have reserve aviators; they are the only branch of the military that only has active duty pilots and no reservists. So, mistaplane, keep this in mind. You sound like you might want to either go straight into the reserves or go reserves eventually. Every other branch has part time (reserves/national guard) flying available, but this is not an option in the USCG. And I don't say this to belittle or demean the Coasties; they are some of the best pilots out there, and get a lot more IMC than helo pilots in any other branch, but if you go CG you will be required to fly on active duty for 6-8 years after you finish flight school.
kbay hombre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2018, 06:11 AM   #10  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 22,797
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbay hombre View Post
The Coast Guard is great, and I say that having worked with them numerous times over my career. With that said, they do NOT have reserve aviators; they are the only branch of the military that only has active duty pilots and no reservists. So, mistaplane, keep this in mind. You sound like you might want to either go straight into the reserves or go reserves eventually. Every other branch has part time (reserves/national guard) flying available, but this is not an option in the USCG. And I don't say this to belittle or demean the Coasties; they are some of the best pilots out there, and get a lot more IMC than helo pilots in any other branch, but if you go CG you will be required to fly on active duty for 6-8 years after you finish flight school.
For clarity, you could do an active duty USCG aviation tour, resign from AD and join the USCGR to finish 20. But you would be flying a desk in reserves.
rickair7777 is online now   Reply With Quote
 
 
 

 
Reply

Tags
flying, lasik, pilot, prk, reserves
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Military or Commercial(it is not just that) sas97 Military 4 05-03-2017 02:02 AM
Delta vs. FedEx Victor Vector Cargo 137 02-15-2016 12:17 PM
So, you want to be an airline pilot? captain_drew Flight Schools and Training 38 12-05-2012 08:29 AM
Should He Fly? vagabond Hangar Talk 8 02-05-2011 06:39 AM
USAF vs. ERAU Boeing 777-300 Flight Schools and Training 49 08-31-2007 06:55 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:37 AM.


vBulletin® v3.9.3.5, Copyright ©2000-2019, MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1