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Old 06-08-2018, 11:32 AM
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How closely do the airlines scruntize your military record?

Let's say a naval aviator did something stupid (outside of the cockpit) and was sent to Mast and given a letter of reprimand, ensuring he'll never make O-4, effectively ending his naval career. Would the airlines care about this at all? To reiterate this is completely non-flying related.
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Let's say a naval aviator did something stupid (outside of the cockpit) and was sent to Mast and given a letter of reprimand, ensuring he'll never make O-4, effectively ending his naval career. Would the airlines care about this at all? To reiterate this is completely non-flying related.


The answer is it depends, but it isn’t a show stopper at all. Delta looks at Fitreps, SWA calls and digs in detail for personal and professional references. The best thing to do is own it, make it a learning experience, and then find some personal and professional references that can attest to that fact. That way, when it comes up in your background check, you are already in front of it.
Plenty of guys and girls I know have similar blemishes in the Navy and fly for the airlines now.
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How closely do the airlines scruntize your military record?

Let's say a naval aviator did something stupid (outside of the cockpit) and was sent to Mast and given a letter of reprimand, ensuring he'll never make O-4, effectively ending his naval career. Would the airlines care about this at all? To reiterate this is completely non-flying related.
Admiral's underage daughter? Might be a problem...
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The answer is it depends, but it isn’t a show stopper at all. Delta looks at Fitreps, SWA calls and digs in detail for personal and professional references. The best thing to do is own it, make it a learning experience, and then find some personal and professional references that can attest to that fact. That way, when it comes up in your background check, you are already in front of it.
Plenty of guys and girls I know have similar blemishes in the Navy and fly for the airlines now.
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Admiral's underage daughter? Might be a problem...
No, nothing that bad. Nothing that would be criminal in the civilian world.
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One or two of the top-tier airlines will ask for FITREPs.

Are you being allowed to remain to HYT? It will be better (for airlines) if you resign so you don't have some weird separation code on your DD-214. You might get better military transition benefits if you're separated for HYT though.

Generally something of this magnitude will not kill you in the long run, but you might have to settle for second-tier/LCC or spend time at a regional. However... airlines are extremely politically correct/sensitive, so the specific nature of the offense could be very important (if the airlines find out about it).

Something you'll need to consider... if you're allowed to resign normally, and your DD-214 reflects that, you need to decide how to answer the question "why did you leave the military"? Honesty is usually the best policy, in case they find out what happened from a third party.
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Admiral's underage daughter? Might be a problem...
How about the admiral's daughter's friend?
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No, nothing that bad. Nothing that would be criminal in the civilian world.
Bear in mind that the airlines have their own rules which they'll expect you to follow, and they will consider your military history in that context.
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How closely do the airlines scruntize your military record?

Let's say a naval aviator did something stupid (outside of the cockpit) and was sent to Mast and given a letter of reprimand, ensuring he'll never make O-4, effectively ending his naval career. Would the airlines care about this at all? To reiterate this is completely non-flying related.
Yeah they’ll care... on what level? Who knows... it will depend on the pilot shortage at the time.

Your best bet is to go to an AA Wholly Owned Regional since they have a flow while you apply to all the other airlines above the regional level...
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...Your best bet is to go to an AA Wholly Owned Regional since they have a flow while you apply to all the other airlines above the regional level...
WHAT?! I just threw up in my mouth. God no! Since DL stopped hiring the only airline that cares is FedEx. They’re one in same when it comes to hiring.
It’s water under the bridge. Just bring your flt records, look sharp and answer the questions. When asked if you knocked up the admiral’s daughter, you say...no!
My airline didn’t ask for OPRS (fitreps).
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Originally Posted by NathanHale1776 View Post
How closely do the airlines scruntize your military record?

Let's say a naval aviator did something stupid (outside of the cockpit) and was sent to Mast and given a letter of reprimand, ensuring he'll never make O-4, effectively ending his naval career. Would the airlines care about this at all? To reiterate this is completely non-flying related.
Sounds like either an alcohol related incident, mishandling classified info or money.

The second two, not a big deal. The first is recoverable as long as it wasn’t a DUI or some kind of bar brawl.
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