CAE Army Fixed-Wing Course
Anyone have the details to the new CAE Army fixed-wing course down in Dothan, AL? The old FWMEQC had plenty of info on it when FSI ran it, however, all that’s really known about the new course is that it’s 3 months long and there’s a combination of flying the Grob and the C-12.
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Truly sorry to hijack this thread a bit, but on a mostly related note, is the Army sending people direct to fixed wing these days?
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Originally Posted by kaputt
(Post 2656367)
Truly sorry to hijack this thread a bit, but on a mostly related note, is the Army sending people direct to fixed wing these days?
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64
(Post 2656413)
YES, FWMEQC exists. Tried explaining that to someone here a couple of months ago and they couldn't be convinced otherwise. We have people in my unit with FY19 reservations. The RA may not be sending people. The Guard and Reserves do.
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FW is now a selection at Rucker. You go through primary, instruments and BWS like normal, but if you choose FW your rotor wing days are done.
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Originally Posted by Taco280AI
(Post 2657264)
FW is now a selection at Rucker. You go through primary, instruments and BWS like normal, but if you choose FW your rotor wing days are done.
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Was written for the AD side, guard doesn't have selection since they already know what they're flying.
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Yep the IEFW track isn’t bad, building dual engine time with only a 6 year ADSO. And if you stay in past that there is the opportunity to fly UC-35’s or Guifstreams. I graduated flight school about 14 months ago and I have 400 hours total time so the flight time is there as well as long as you deploy.. and are a warrant lol
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They do the Grob and the C-12U now.
Old program had C-182, Baron, C-12C/D, then C-12V sims. New one AFAIK has Grob then C-12U. C-12V is reserve exclusive and I've heard that they don't do nearly as much - it's C-12U focused. AD sends people through who select FW in selection, usually going on to a SEMA course unless they go straight to a C-12U VIP unit. Just got out of the MC-12 course and feedback from IPs is that new students who come through the CAE course are not as well prepared as the students who came from Flight Safety. That's obviously anecdotal feedback, but they get less overall time, so it may be true. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 2702478)
They do the Grob and the C-12U now.
Old program had C-182, Baron, C-12C/D, then C-12V sims. New one AFAIK has Grob then C-12U. C-12V is reserve exclusive and I've heard that they don't do nearly as much - it's C-12U focused. AD sends people through who select FW in selection, usually going on to a SEMA course unless they go straight to a C-12U VIP unit. Just got out of the MC-12 course and feedback from IPs is that new students who come through the CAE course are not as well prepared as the students who came from Flight Safety. That's obviously anecdotal feedback, but they get less overall time, so it may be true. |
Originally Posted by khergan
(Post 2702478)
Just got out of the MC-12 course and feedback from IPs is that new students who come through the CAE course are not as well prepared as the students who came from Flight Safety. That's obviously anecdotal feedback, but they get less overall time, so it may be true.
I know a guy who knows a guy (for real, though, no kidding) who took the job with CAE at Dothan. He started in January, and by Feb he was with students. He didn't even get a 'how to work the sim' spin-up. So, I can see how this could be true. |
Originally Posted by Gundriver64
(Post 2702747)
Yep, to the chagrin of USAR VIP units, students are not getting any C-12V time at CAE. It's "fun" teaching someone ProLine 21 straight from the cockpit :eek:
Are you sure you werent a 60 pilot at some point??? |
Originally Posted by sherpster
(Post 2702980)
The horror. I am a former 64 driver myself and the proline 21 is about as easy as they come but hey, if thats what bothers you then OK. What bothers me is that you must be a former 64 driver where there are a bizzilion switch options in that cockpit yet you complain about teaching a proline 21 cockpit. You are making gun bunnies look weak.
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64
(Post 2702991)
I guess the point flew right over your coconut. CAE gets paid umpteengazzilion dollars to teach Proline 21. They should teach it. I was likely "gun bunnying" since before you were popping zits on your face...
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Originally Posted by sherpster
(Post 2703025)
Proved my point, that was easy
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64
(Post 2703036)
You never had a valid point to begin with. Self-flattery is cheap. Since, I can’t reach through this screen and pat you on the head to make you feel better; you’ll have to work it out on your own with that self-aggrandizing cry for help stuff. If that’s a bridge too far, the local CVS might be running a special on vagisil...
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Originally Posted by sherpster
(Post 2703105)
Now I know the truth, you were a 60 pilot at some point. Probably tracked 60's in the early 2000's. There is no other explanation as to why you think learning the Proline 21 is difficult. I am guessing you got a couple of years in a 64 cockpit in the reserves/guard and now your screen name is "GunDriver64"? Probably also have a Firebirds cap you wear around town.
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64
(Post 2703113)
Here’s a little pearl of wisdom that would probably do you a lot of good: “Better to be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
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This thread has degenerated into a pie fight, and we have run out of pies. Bakery closed.
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