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Old 10-30-2018, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ipdanno View Post
In AFRC, to qualify for an AD retirement (technically it is referred to as an AGR retirement), one needs to accrue 7305 AD points. Reserve points donít help you reach that number, but upon reaching the Active retirement threshold, all Reserve points are added to your total to determine your retirement check.
That's to *qualify* for an *AD* retirement.

The 7200 number is used to determine the *value* of a *reserve* retirement.
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Old 10-30-2018, 06:11 PM
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Do Army National Guard ADOS orders count towards an active duty retirement or not?
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:01 PM
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Hey, someone wrote an article about it!

https://community.thepilotnetwork.or...st-kept-secret
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:53 PM
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Hey, someone wrote an article about it!

https://community.thepilotnetwork.or...st-kept-secret
Iíve always wondered why an airline would hire somebody doing this program? Whatís in it for them? Unless the applicant lies?
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Iíve always wondered why an airline would hire somebody doing this program? Whatís in it for them? Unless the applicant lies?
Lies about what, exactly? What kind of questions do you think the interview teams are asking about military obligations?
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Lies about what, exactly? What kind of questions do you think the interview teams are asking about military obligations?
Lies about being in this program, Iím sure someone could conveniently leave out the service obligation with AF if they wanted to? I just donít understand why would an airline hire someone who is going to go back On mil leave in a couple years?. Especially when there are plenty of non-service committed people getting out of the military.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Burley View Post
Lies about being in this program, there is a service obligation with the AF that incurs it when you accept it. Why would an airline hire someone who is going to go back On mil leave in a couple years?. Especially when there are plenty of non-service committed people getting out of the military.
USERRA was not written to account for "snap back" programs like this one.

But I believe the way USERRA is written, they would be protected. I'm sure airlines would consider this an "over the top" abuse, and would find any excuse to not hire someone if they knew about it.

Or maybe if they're really concerned about the pilot shortage, they might go ahead and "lock in" a good candidate... almost no way he'd go anywhere else with close to ten years seniority.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
USERRA was not written to account for "snap back" programs like this one.

But I believe the way USERRA is written, they would be protected. I'm sure airlines would consider this an "over the top" abuse, and would find any excuse to not hire someone if they knew about it.

Or maybe if they're really concerned about the pilot shortage, they might go ahead and "lock in" a good candidate... almost no way he'd go anywhere else with close to ten years seniority.
I know plenty of well qualified guys in the Guard that are DSGís and separating active duty guys still waiting on a call. I donít think the legacies are at a point where they need to ďlock inĒ applicants that they fear they will miss out on later. But if somebody can make this work, then good for them.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:33 PM
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Your mileage may vary, but it seems to me interview boards avoid asking questions about mil obligations for fear of legal liability if they didn't hire someone protected by USERRA rules, even if that wasn't the reason they didn't offer a candidate a job. The airlines seem gunshy from discriminating against a candidate for military service obligations (or the risk of appearing to do so). Again, YMMV, so you do you but the program is out there and a good option for some people.
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I would caution anyone within 3 years of retirement from actually doing this. There is no guarantee that you will get hired or even interviewed by a major especially if they know you are out on the CIP or because you donít have enough currency. You may incur a service obligation that further delays your seniority number if no one picks you up during the CIP period.
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