Retired Navy Looking at Airlines
11-09-2018, 04:41 PM
#11
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Baronbvp,
Sorry for the thread drift and the question; I don’t much about trapping, my only knowledge is from AF squadron guys. How does the HUD integrate with the ball? All I remember hearing, “you focus on the ball and AOA, don’t spot the deck”. Can you look thru the HUD at the ball or the deck. I do have lots of HUD in Globals and 1,000 hours of HUD in the A-10.
GF
Sorry for the thread drift and the question; I don’t much about trapping, my only knowledge is from AF squadron guys. How does the HUD integrate with the ball? All I remember hearing, “you focus on the ball and AOA, don’t spot the deck”. Can you look thru the HUD at the ball or the deck. I do have lots of HUD in Globals and 1,000 hours of HUD in the A-10.
GF
11-09-2018, 04:58 PM
#12
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Old school simple scan "Meatball, lineup, angle of attack" repeat till surprised in the wires never fails or failed me.
You can use a HUD (until it fails). You get good at what you scan. I always liked the simplicity less technology for worst case capability with calm. When I went HUD, it was like crack, don't wanna go back. However, some stayed simple scan...meatball, lineup, AOA which I ascribed.
You can use a HUD (until it fails). You get good at what you scan. I always liked the simplicity less technology for worst case capability with calm. When I went HUD, it was like crack, don't wanna go back. However, some stayed simple scan...meatball, lineup, AOA which I ascribed.
11-10-2018, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver
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11-10-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by baronbvp
Nobody cares how many strikes I led over Iraq and Afghanistan or how many traps I have. They only care that I can learn the business, fly the jet and execute the instrument procedures, and be in a mindset to work hard and learn.
Originally Posted by baronbvp
I think one thing old military guys like me bring to the table is we’re salty. We know how to fly a jet manually and how to recognize and deal with things like loss of airspeed indication, icing, or deep stalls that seem to have bitten some airline pilots in recent accidents. We know how to feel the energy state of an airplane. We have big picture SA and years of experience under pressure with low fuel, bad weather, breaking out at mins, going missed approach and diverting to alternates, talking to ATC in busy situations and complex airspace, overcoming inflight emergencies, and bringing the jet back no matter what. Young guys just don’t have that.
Even if this were true (you aren’t necessarily any better than the “young guys”, sorry)... probably a good idea to keep these kind of thoughts to yourself as you progress through the regionals.
Good luck with your journey.
11-12-2018, 10:35 AM
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I think the most important advice here is the instrument proficiency. 14 years out is along time so getting your scan back is a top priority as they don't have time to teach it. Don't worry about MIL/CIV thing as there is always some idiot around on either side. When teaching new hires back in the day one thing military guys had ability to adapt. Something new or they had never heard of show them once and that was it. Generally they stayed within the training footprint too. Good luck.
11-12-2018, 11:02 AM
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There is no chance, zero, none, that your flying brain, skills, SA, and instrument scan is better after a 14 yr lay-off and being 14 yrs older. Our brains don’t get better after passing 40. Be prepared for the training to be a grind. Prior preparation will make it an easier, but not easy, transition. Good luck.
11-12-2018, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
There is no chance, zero, none, that your flying brain, skills, SA, and instrument scan is better after a 14 yr lay-off and being 14 yrs older. Our brains don’t get better after passing 40. Be prepared for the training to be a grind. Prior preparation will make it an easier, but not easy, transition. Good luck.
11-13-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
Can't argue, all true but for a different and surprising view, took an 80 year retired Navy pilot in a jet he flew in Vietnam up for a flight in same jet after he had not flown any aircraft in 37 years. He literally flew the aircraft as if he had flown it the day before. Was shocked at his SA and skills. Hope to have that ability at his age, but doubt it
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