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Old 11-25-2018, 04:57 PM
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Just remember, being an F/O at a regional means being the ultimate chameleon, especially with your history. You're going to have to sit next to a twenty something Captain with 1/10th of your experience and maintain ziplip for at least two years until you can upgrade.


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When he hits the line the Captain, even a young one, will have thousands hours more regional flying than he does. There's a learning curve for everyone.

As a retired F-18 guy said "I'm impressed by how good the training is and how sharp the guys are."

And a retired B-52(?) guy said he was surprised at the complexity of basic, but normal, airline flying. SID's, STAR's, fast turns, busy taxi clearances, reroutes, variety of approach types, high tempo ops, radio chatter, etc. Land, unload, grab a quick bite and a pee, reload, and launch again.

Every job, every seat, has a learning curve. Between switching seats or aircraft I've done it about 28 times. I you add in different regions in the world it goes over 30. Going to the next assignment means learning that job instead of believing I know it because I've done it x times before. Doing it x times over helps. Some stuff transfers, some doesn't transfer to the new job. That's part of the learning curve.

That's why I mentioned to come back with your impressions. The F-18 and B-52 guys did. It's interesting reading their impressions since they have a new perspective on it.
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Old 11-25-2018, 05:15 PM
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Got offered both jobs and decided to go with SkyWest due to SAN domicile, well-respected professional training (long time out of the cockpit), and flying new ERJ jets with glass cockpits. Thanks to everyone for their help. Excited to join the ranks!
Glad to have you onboard. Will be looking forward to some good stories for those long legs across flyover country!
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Old 11-25-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
When he hits the line the Captain, even a young one, will have thousands hours more regional flying than he does. There's a learning curve for everyone.

As a retired F-18 guy said "I'm impressed by how good the training is and how sharp the guys are."

And a retired B-52(?) guy said he was surprised at the complexity of basic, but normal, airline flying. SID's, STAR's, fast turns, busy taxi clearances, reroutes, variety of approach types, high tempo ops, radio chatter, etc. Land, unload, grab a quick bite and a pee, reload, and launch again.

Every job, every seat, has a learning curve. Between switching seats or aircraft I've done it about 28 times. I you add in different regions in the world it goes over 30. Going to the next assignment means learning that job instead of believing I know it because I've done it x times before. Doing it x times over helps. Some stuff transfers, some doesn't transfer to the new job. That's part of the learning curve.

That's why I mentioned to come back with your impressions. The F-18 and B-52 guys did. It's interesting reading their impressions since they have a new perspective on it.
Yes, past experience predicts your ability to learn a new gig, but does not inherently bestow on you the ability to perform the gig. You still have to learn it.
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Old 11-25-2018, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Just remember, being an F/O at a regional means being the ultimate chameleon, especially with your history. You're going to have to sit next to a twenty something Captain with 1/10th of your experience and maintain ziplip for at least two years until you can upgrade.


Best of luck.
Those twenty something Captains often have more time in type flying to airports in the network than a military guy has in total time. They may not have as wide a variety of experience but they are experts in their field.

I’ve flown with several and have often found they’ve got a lot of useful techniques that make every day life easier, especially the ones that had thousands of hrs of FO time in the same jet under their belt before they went to upgrade. They’ve also got plenty of experience dealing with the variety of MELs that seem to pop up on originators at 5am.

I’ve also flown with seasoned captains who are newly transitioned to the respective jet. They’ve got a wider variety of experience but it’s more interesting when the FO is the resident expert on the jet and they’re still pretty new themselves.

Given those two scenarios, I much prefer to fly with the 20 something captains...
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Old 11-25-2018, 08:12 PM
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These are great points that I fully understand. I’m the new guy and I have much to learn from everyone. Appreciate the engagement on this forum! Will definitely come back with my impressions and lessons learned.
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Old 11-25-2018, 08:14 PM
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Glad to have you onboard. Will be looking forward to some good stories for those long legs across flyover country!


Thanks! Looking forward to all of it. And to be back with pilots again.
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Yep, its those superb regional Captains are the reason we have federally mandated EET training starting March 19th.
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:42 AM
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Yep, its those superb regional Captains are the reason we have federally mandated EET training starting March 19th.
What's that?
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Old 11-26-2018, 08:31 AM
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These are great points that I fully understand. I’m the new guy and I have much to learn from everyone. Appreciate the engagement on this forum! Will definitely come back with my impressions and lessons learned.
Hey, it could be worse. If you want a social dilemma:

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What's that?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.423

The training I went through was called Upset Recovery training (URT) or how to handle an upset stomach after consuming crew catering. Bring it on, it sounds fun!
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