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SaltyDog 12-25-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Synixman (Post 2731174)
... An NFO to pilot transition won't occur until after her first sea tour, ~5-6 years into her career, and they don't take many every year. It's a long shot.

If I were in her spot, assuming there's no medical reason (eyes?) they sent her NFO, I'd try to switch to pilot. If that didn't work, and I could walk without repercussions, I'd walk...

Non scholarship has no military requirement. Guessing since she will have completed the Navy commissioning program Navy OCS would not be an option by the Navy. If the FY pilot slot is available, she should be able to get it without switching commissioning programs. Same FY slots. Good leaders could probably move a slot from OCS as priority for assignments generally is Academy, ROTC, then OCS in that order. (Unless all filled already).

As already stated by many in above posts, ANG or USAFR may be best option depending on priorities.

Packrat 12-25-2018 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by SaltyDog (Post 2731197)
As already stated by many in above posts, ANG or USAFR may be best option depending on priorities.

If I was in her shoes and had it to do all over again, I'd find an ANG unit that flies tankers (assuming the ultimate goal is major airline pilot).

That way she KNOWS for a fact which airplane she'll be assigned to when she starts flight school. Navy platform assignment is and always has been a crap shoot. Why? It depends on your grades and the "needs of the Navy" the week you actually come up for assignment.

That "needs of the Navy" theory follows you all the way through your career, often eliminating you from the kind or location of orders you most desire. How do I know? Happened to me ALMOST EVERY time I came up for assignment.

Initial: Wanted P-3s or EC-130s. Got Helos.

Shore Tour: Wanted Training Command. Got PMTC NATOPs.

TAR: Wanted C-9s Memphis. Got C-9s Norfolk.

The worst part of the whole deal was the C-9 debacle. Guy in my squadron wanted Norfolk. He got orders less than a month prior to me. Guess where? Memphis. We both called the detailer and tried to swap orders. No way.

"Needs of the Navy."

Go Guard. She won't regret it.

USMCFLYR 12-25-2018 10:39 AM

Coast Guard OCS would be a worse option since before going to/and graduating from the program, you won’t even know if you have an aviation slot.

angry tanker 12-25-2018 08:25 PM

If she is a junior or senior, she will owe some time. She can do a cross commission, so rush the af guard and reserve units hard. Has she looked at the Marine option? I think their PLT program will guarentee a pilot slot. Another option would be to try defer commissioning to get a masters and try again next year. Anyway, good luck!

rickair7777 12-26-2018 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by angry tanker (Post 2731438)
If she is a junior or senior, she will owe some time. She can do a cross commission, so rush the af guard and reserve units hard. Has she looked at the Marine option? I think their PLT program will guarentee a pilot slot. Another option would be to try defer commissioning to get a masters and try again next year. Anyway, good luck!

Non scholarship = no obligation IIRC.

tanker 12-26-2018 08:34 AM

According to the NROTC website scholarship students must serve 4 years active duty while non-scholarship students must serve 3 years active duty.

Synixman 12-26-2018 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2731240)
Coast Guard OCS would be a worse option since before going to/and graduating from the program, you won’t even know if you have an aviation slot.

I'll have to ask my Coastie on-wings, but I believe if you want aviation at OCS and have the ASTB score, it's easily available. Not a guarantee, but darn close.

Break Break

To the OP, looking more, she will likely owe time from NROTC. Being a non-scholarship may offer cross-commissioning option to something like this:

https://www.gocoastguard.com/active-...l-dcss-program

Again, I love the Navy, but I'd be lying if I said it hasn't screwed me over a time or two. I tell anyone interested in military aviation to look that towards USCG. Never met an unhappy Coastie.

rickair7777 12-26-2018 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by tanker (Post 2731584)
According to the NROTC website scholarship students must serve 4 years active duty while non-scholarship students must serve 3 years active duty.

Odd, three years make no sense. I guess you could barely qualify as a SWO and do a DIVO tour.

I guess you'd get the GI Bill, that would help pay for flight training.

rickair7777 12-26-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Synixman (Post 2731689)
I'll have to ask my Coastie on-wings, but I believe if you want aviation at OCS and have the ASTB score, it's easily available. Not a guarantee, but darn close.

Break Break

To the OP, looking more, she will likely owe time from NROTC. Being a non-scholarship may offer cross-commissioning option to something like this:

https://www.gocoastguard.com/active-...l-dcss-program

Again, I love the Navy, but I'd be lying if I said it hasn't screwed me over a time or two. I tell anyone interested in military aviation to look that towards USCG. Never met an unhappy Coastie.

Got a close family member in the USCG... definitely no guarantees for aviation.

USMCFLYR 12-26-2018 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Synixman (Post 2731689)
I'll have to ask my Coastie on-wings, but I believe if you want aviation at OCS and have the ASTB score, it's easily available. Not a guarantee, but darn close.

Break Break

To the OP, looking more, she will likely owe time from NROTC. Being a non-scholarship may offer cross-commissioning option to something like this:

https://www.gocoastguard.com/active-...l-dcss-program

Again, I love the Navy, but I'd be lying if I said it hasn't screwed me over a time or two. I tell anyone interested in military aviation to look that towards USCG. Never met an unhappy Coastie.

Things certainly may have changed through the years, but sort of like Marine TBS (for Ground Officers), back when I looked and during my time you competed for an aviation slot while in OCS.

I agree with the happy USCG!
Looked at transferring myself.
I have the utmost respect for USCG aviators!


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