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AiRegency 04-11-2019 01:33 PM

Zoe Kotnik
 
Did any of you MIL guys hear what the nitty-gritty story was that resulted in her departure? Just curious...

BeatNavy 04-11-2019 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by AiRegency (Post 2801188)
Did any of you MIL guys hear what the nitty-gritty story was that resulted in her departure? Just curious...

I don’t think it should be blasted on the internet. Everyone’s human, mistakes were made, and hopefully she recovers and has a good career. There’s been a whole lot worse done by higher profile people. She (and her boss) just happened to be in a spot where it couldn’t be ignored.

AiRegency 04-11-2019 03:31 PM

Guess it kinda depends on the nature of the mistake. Government employees get demoted or discharged for all kinds of reasons that are made public. And I'm not really looking for salacious details. If she screwed the wrong person than I don't care. Nuff said. However, if she did something dumb or dangerous in a piece of tax-payer purchased equipment than I don't think it's inappropriate to say so. But to say what they did about her and leave it like that sure seems like an incomplete explanation. I was just hoping someone could close that open door.

navigatro 04-12-2019 09:42 AM

pretty sure it was an affair with a married person. (so I heard)

Grumble 04-13-2019 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by AiRegency (Post 2801254)
Guess it kinda depends on the nature of the mistake. Government employees get demoted or discharged for all kinds of reasons that are made public. And I'm not really looking for salacious details. If she screwed the wrong person than I don't care. Nuff said. However, if she did something dumb or dangerous in a piece of tax-payer purchased equipment than I don't think it's inappropriate to say so. But to say what they did about her and leave it like that sure seems like an incomplete explanation. I was just hoping someone could close that open door.

You have no business knowing anything that hasn’t been publicly released regardless of the details. Being a tax payer doesn’t entitle you to chit. FOIA it if you think you have a need to know.

rickair7777 04-14-2019 05:47 AM

If she wasn't a cute chick nobody would care that an O3 got removed from an OIC position, and it wouldn't be in the news (other than maybe AF Times).

This kind of thing is HR business, not for public consumption. Doesn't matter whether it was sex, or a minor goof or misjudgement in a jet. Only exception is really for felonies involving formal charges, or in some cases very senior officers.

crewdawg 04-14-2019 06:21 AM

What Grumble and Rick said. [/thread]

angry tanker 04-14-2019 06:23 PM

Only two things get you in trouble, sex and money. Do have sex with somebody you shouldn’t, and don’t spend money on things you shouldn’t.

Hacker15e 04-14-2019 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by angry tanker (Post 2803097)
Only two things get you in trouble, sex and money. Do have sex with somebody you shouldn’t, and don’t spend money on things you shouldn’t.

Oh, no. The USAF currently has a tangled multitude of ways to get yourself fired from command.

I'm surprised anyone wants to accept a command position these days.

HuggyU2 04-15-2019 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by AiRegency (Post 2801188)
Did any of you MIL guys hear what the nitty-gritty story was that resulted in her departure? Just curious...

Anyone in the know is not going to discuss it publicly, with an anonymous forum poster.

There’s this thing called “decorum”.

WTF?


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