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Old 12-08-2019, 08:53 AM
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I can't imagine wanting to continue to wreck your body in high G (even down at 6-7G) well into your 60s. Anyway, I've talked to a few guys doing this stuff and they seem to enjoy it ok, but it doesn't seem so "part-time." I think one said he was required to work 8 days/month...that's way more than I even give to the Guard. That said, it seems like it would be great alternative to the airlines if you had a AD pension/medical. It's also a great option for the types that just can't give up their speed jeans.
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Old 12-09-2019, 04:04 AM
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As long as you don't overfly your FAA "quota" its no problem. Of course, your airline has to approve, but since most of these flights are less than two hours it wasn't a problem for him.
Unless that company is operating under a
135,121, or 91k certificate (all of which are unlikely) they can fly as much as they want with zero impact to their airline limits. 117 removed normal part 91 commercial flying from the equation. Now individual FOM restriction are a different story.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:43 AM
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OK...I'll chime in on some of this.
I'll speak for ATAC some time ago since I have been out of this game for awhile now. I still know people in the industry though so if there are other questions, if I can't answer them, I can probably get you the answers (serious inquiries)

Part-time fun for airline pilots?
Sort of. There is a small core of full time pilot who run the organization - like a reserve squadron. MOST of the people flying are former fighter pilots who are now flying for the airlines and they are on the 7 day a month club. This of these as the standard reservists. Then there were 14 day guys - like me - for whom it was my only job at the time and 14 days a month was a minimum that I gave, but offered up availability much more per month.

I see it as more of a bridge to the airlines for mil guys exiting that don’t have a major airline job offer yet. I know a guy who did that (and, he was still quite active in the Air Guard).
As I said above - it can be used in such a manner, but I was one of a few who used it as a bridge job. Most do not use it in such a manner in my experience.

...but it doesn't seem so "part-time." I think one said he was required to work 8 days/month...that's way more than I even give to the Guard.
Covered above with the full time or 7/14 day contract guys

As far as 'pulling G's' - there isn't as much of it as you think.
From what I remember - in the A/A missions the adversaries were limited to a single turn. We were not getting into 'turning and burning' full up ACM. You are more radar targets or carrying jamming pods for the EW profiles and force multipliers when operating in mixed section/divisions.
You were much morel likely to be pulling more G's in the A/G roles.

It was the best think that I could think of outside of still being in the military. If I had an airline style schedule then I'd still be doing it no doubt.
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Old 12-10-2019, 10:13 PM
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Yup. Don’t get to excited, unless things have changed you have to blow through the merge. The risk and legal complications of a potential midair in the WVR arena between a DOD and a Civilian asset wasnt something anyone was willing to figure out last I was there.
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Old 12-11-2019, 06:46 AM
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Plenty of simple orbits on station with a ECM POD running under the wing of a L39.
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