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Old 12-27-2019, 10:46 AM
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Good afternoon,
I have searched around and have not found an answer to this question yet so I hope this is the correct place to post it. I am currently in flight school with selection coming up. I have performed well enough to potentially pick the C-12 if it is available.
My question is, does C-12 time hold any advantage over rotary time when/if I transition to commercial airlines? From my understanding I will likely have to put in time with regionals either way, but if selecting C-12 will take care of more prerequisites or lead to less time at regionals then that would greatly influence my decision come selection.

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Old 12-27-2019, 11:20 AM
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Good afternoon,
I have searched around and have not found an answer to this question yet so I hope this is the correct place to post it. I am currently in flight school with selection coming up. I have performed well enough to potentially pick the C-12 if it is available.
My question is, does C-12 time hold any advantage over rotary time when/if I transition to commercial airlines? From my understanding I will likely have to put in time with regionals either way, but if selecting C-12 will take care of more prerequisites or lead to less time at regionals then that would greatly influence my decision come selection.

Thanks!
Definitely. Based on your question as to which is better solely for the purpose of airline flying (not if you'd enjoy army helos more, etc.) then take the C-12. If you want a multi engine fixed wing ATP eventually, then getting your multi engine fixed wing ratings and multi engine fixed wing time is always going to be better.
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Old 12-27-2019, 02:24 PM
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Yes, you'll be far ahead of RW people.

May not be quite as completive as USAF/USN folks who did UPT, but hour for hour better off than civilian or non UPT RW.

Might get a legacy job out of the chute, if not then a short stay at a regional.
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:38 AM
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Thanks everyone for the input. I figured that would be the case but wasn't sure to what degree the two would be separated.
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:03 AM
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Don't pick an airframe based on future potential with the airlines. You have almost a decade of flying for the Army, pick something you want to do there. You will never have another chance to sling rockets downrange for a pinned down infantry squad, or slam on in to pick up a dying American and get them to safety, or thump along with a howitzer under your bird and a gun crew in the back. Yeah fixed wing will set you up better for an airline job, but I cherish my experience as an Army helicopter pilot and wouldn't change that even for a job at the majors right now.
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:59 AM
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Don't pick an airframe based on future potential with the airlines. You have almost a decade of flying for the Army, pick something you want to do there. You will never have another chance to sling rockets downrange for a pinned down infantry squad, or slam on in to pick up a dying American and get them to safety, or thump along with a howitzer under your bird and a gun crew in the back. Yeah fixed wing will set you up better for an airline job, but I cherish my experience as an Army helicopter pilot and wouldn't change that even for a job at the majors right now.
V/R, but not true at all. If airlines are the goal, 150% go FW. Get your legacy job, and then if you want to go attack, lift, medevac or whatever excites you find a Guard unit that flies that airframe. OP didn’t say whether he was RLO or Warrant - but be sure you’re a warrant in the Guard. The 12-24 months earlier in getting a number will pay 100’s of thousands on the back end.
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Originally Posted by ThesmallLebowsk View Post
Good afternoon,
I have searched around and have not found an answer to this question yet so I hope this is the correct place to post it. I am currently in flight school with selection coming up. I have performed well enough to potentially pick the C-12 if it is available.
My question is, does C-12 time hold any advantage over rotary time when/if I transition to commercial airlines? From my understanding I will likely have to put in time with regionals either way, but if selecting C-12 will take care of more prerequisites or lead to less time at regionals then that would greatly influence my decision come selection.

Thanks!
I am a former Army helo pilot. If the airlines are your goal then going the C-12 route will be much better for you. You will never have to mess with a Rotor-transition program, you will get your fixed wing ratings for free, and you will have military turbine time. Flying a C-12 won't earn you any bragging rights at the VFW, but it is much more valuable than helicopter time, plus who cares about bragging rights when you get to where you want to be faster than the other guy? If you want to fly helos because it is a calling, go do that. However, the fixed wing time is worth way more than the helo time from an airline industry standpoint.
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Old 12-29-2019, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ThesmallLebowsk View Post
Good afternoon,
I have searched around and have not found an answer to this question yet so I hope this is the correct place to post it. I am currently in flight school with selection coming up. I have performed well enough to potentially pick the C-12 if it is available.
My question is, does C-12 time hold any advantage over rotary time when/if I transition to commercial airlines? From my understanding I will likely have to put in time with regionals either way, but if selecting C-12 will take care of more prerequisites or lead to less time at regionals then that would greatly influence my decision come selection.

Thanks!
Absolutely GO FW!!!!
You can always go RW in the Army.
Obviously you need to serve your country (and I am sure you want to do this), ....ˇBUT! one day the music will stop, you’ll feel that you’ve ‘done your part’, and/or you will realize that the Army is a big machine & you are just a very-small cog that will be replaced with no emotion or care for your future.

When this happens, you will need $$ and a career.
Having Fixed Wing Multi-Engine flight time will open many many more doors than RW time. Period.

There’s nothing wrong with building your resume (career potential) while you honorably serve your country.

After you secure a good future, ask to go fly RW and then scratch that itch.
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Old 12-29-2019, 09:00 PM
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Nevermind, go fixed wing.
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Old 12-31-2019, 06:11 AM
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Absolutely GO FW!!!!
You can always go RW in the Army.
Obviously you need to serve your country (and I am sure you want to do this), ....ˇBUT! one day the music will stop, you’ll feel that you’ve ‘done your part’, and/or you will realize that the Army is a big machine & you are just a very-small cog that will be replaced with no emotion or care for your future.

When this happens, you will need $$ and a career.
Having Fixed Wing Multi-Engine flight time will open many many more doors than RW time. Period.

There’s nothing wrong with building your resume (career potential) while you honorably serve your country.

After you secure a good future, ask to go fly RW and then scratch that itch.
I’m a former Army RW and FW guy who is now at a legacy and completely agree with Hobbit64.
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