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Grom1234 02-26-2020 08:37 PM

Pilot and Military, but not a Military Pilot
 
I know that airlines look at Military pilots favorably and that they can make it to the majors faster than straight civilian guys. My question is, do the majors or LCCs look at Military (non mil pilot) guys any better or different than straight civilian pilots? I'm sure there are plenty of enlisted guys that got all their ratings on the civilian side while reserve or after AD. Any positions that might get you some bonus points like 1st Sgt, or other leadership positions? Thanks for any/all information.

viper548 02-27-2020 04:46 AM

It didn't seem to help me get an interview but I think it helped in the interview.

Grom1234 02-27-2020 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by viper548 (Post 2985017)
It didn't seem to help me get an interview but I think it helped in the interview.

Well, it's nice it helped a little bit somewhere.

rickair7777 02-27-2020 10:29 AM

Your career progression will be 100% civilian, that's the competitive environment for you. You won't get any significant shortcuts.

The mil background will grant a tiny bit of extra credit, they know you'll show up on time, with clean shave and pressed shirt. Might also be a good conversation point at an interview.

Grom1234 02-27-2020 05:04 PM

Thanks for the feedback.

Karnak 02-28-2020 06:29 AM

At Delta, it’s an enhancement to the rest of your qualifications. The silo you’re in won’t change, but it will move you up in the silo.

viper548 02-28-2020 03:38 PM

I took my Medal citations to my interview. Those certainly felt like they helped.

Hermajestysherc 02-28-2020 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2985234)
Your career progression will be 100% civilian, that's the competitive environment for you. You won't get any significant shortcuts.

The mil background will grant a tiny bit of extra credit, they know you'll show up on time, with clean shave and pressed shirt. Might also be a good conversation point at an interview.

What about military pilots from foreign countries? I'm a Canadian Airforce pilot with about 2700 TT and 1000+ TPIC (all Canadian mil - c130 and trainers), but with an FAA ATP, degree and green card. Which silo do I fall in? Military? Civvi? Somewhere in between? ​​​​​​​

Adlerdriver 02-28-2020 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by viper548 (Post 2986164)
I took my Medal citations to my interview. Those certainly felt like they helped.

Well now they know that you brought great credit upon yourself and the USAF. ;)

usmc-sgt 02-28-2020 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2986179)
Well now they know that you brought great credit upon yourself and the USAF. ;)

I brought my combat action ribbon. But it’s a ribbon and not a medal so delta said no 😔

rickair7777 02-28-2020 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Hermajestysherc (Post 2986167)
What about military pilots from foreign countries? I'm a Canadian Airforce pilot with about 2700 TT and 1000+ TPIC (all Canadian mil - c130 and trainers), but with an FAA ATP, degree and green card. Which silo do I fall in? Military? Civvi? Somewhere in between? ​​​​​​​


Military I think. Most especially if you did UPT in the US, but either way you should be good (don't forget to get your FAA type for the herc).

The majors are interested in the type of training, type of flying, and type of aircraft. Doubt they'd care if it had a maple leaf painted on it.

rickair7777 02-28-2020 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by viper548 (Post 2986164)
I took my Medal citations to my interview. Those certainly felt like they helped.

If you have any personal awards which are unusual for your rank and time in service, that would be worth highlighting somehow. If you have a run-of-the-mil salad bar, list it on the resume but maybe don't make a big deal at the interview..

paulcg77 03-24-2020 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Hermajestysherc (Post 2986167)
What about military pilots from foreign countries? I'm a Canadian Airforce pilot with about 2700 TT and 1000+ TPIC (all Canadian mil - c130 and trainers), but with an FAA ATP, degree and green card. Which silo do I fall in? Military? Civvi? Somewhere in between?

Hermajestysherc I agree with rickair, you'd most likely be treated similar to US military. I take it you did UPT in Canada rather than here (the only RCAF guys I've met who did UPT at Sheppard were C17 pilots) but it shouldn't make too much of a difference. I just saw that Air Canada is furloughing 15% of its pilots and 50% of flight attendants, and the pilot union agreed to pay cuts; it might get rough here too but the recovery will also be faster, and you'll make a lot more money.


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