Low Hour Military Pilot Transitioning Out
#11
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 74
I would recommend against getting your CFI.
Its a lot of work to get, easy to get a fail on your Initial and equally important.....it’s something you really need to want to do...teach.
You’re not doing anybody any favors sitting there not enjoying what you’re doing.
Least of all your students who shouldn’t fall victim to your circumstances.
600-750 hrs should get you in the door with plane sense which would be waaaaay more useful to you then pounding the tarmac in a Cherokee.
Its a lot of work to get, easy to get a fail on your Initial and equally important.....it’s something you really need to want to do...teach.
You’re not doing anybody any favors sitting there not enjoying what you’re doing.
Least of all your students who shouldn’t fall victim to your circumstances.
600-750 hrs should get you in the door with plane sense which would be waaaaay more useful to you then pounding the tarmac in a Cherokee.
#12
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: CFI
Posts: 9
HouseMouse I’ve been looking at this thread for the past year. Good pay. Good hours. Sounds like your’e not far off from an SIC gig with one of these bubbas.
L-3/Dynamic/Avenge
L-3/Dynamic/Avenge
#13
https://iflysouthern.com/job/first-o...nd-in-command/
Need to get your total time up either through CFI or 135 flying.
Need to get your total time up either through CFI or 135 flying.
#14
On Reserve
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 21
You can apply early to regionals, many will interview you and give you a CJO conditional on getting your hours. They might even give you a class date if you can project when you'll be R-ATP eligible.
I'd prioritize your top preferred regional employer(s), apply to them first and see what happens. Then go from there.
Primary considerations for a regional are geography and upgrade opportunity. If you are free to move anywhere, go for upgrade opportunity and QOL/pay.
Under the circumstances of a presumably adverse departure from the mil, you should plan on staying for a while at a regional, upgrading and acquiring some 121 PIC. If your mil situation is so adverse that you're at risk of not getting a major job, might want to consider longer-term factors in selecting a regional (size, stability, culture, etc). But there's also fractionals and ACMI, you'll have options as long as the majors are hiring, worst case that opens things up down the food chain.
I'd prioritize your top preferred regional employer(s), apply to them first and see what happens. Then go from there.
Primary considerations for a regional are geography and upgrade opportunity. If you are free to move anywhere, go for upgrade opportunity and QOL/pay.
Under the circumstances of a presumably adverse departure from the mil, you should plan on staying for a while at a regional, upgrading and acquiring some 121 PIC. If your mil situation is so adverse that you're at risk of not getting a major job, might want to consider longer-term factors in selecting a regional (size, stability, culture, etc). But there's also fractionals and ACMI, you'll have options as long as the majors are hiring, worst case that opens things up down the food chain.
To follow up to your post, what kind of impact would having a general discharge from the military be on getting picked up by the majors? I’m fairly certain this won’t happen to me, but I’m definitely looking to plan for every scenario in case it does. I would have excellent references from my supervisors and commander. I’m not able to find too much information online as to how it would affect me, but it sounds like it wouldn’t be an issue with the regionals but would be a black mark in the eyes of the majors.
#15
I appreciate the detailed response from you and everyone else in the thread.
To follow up to your post, what kind of impact would having a general discharge from the military be on getting picked up by the majors? I’m fairly certain this won’t happen to me, but I’m definitely looking to plan for every scenario in case it does. I would have excellent references from my supervisors and commander. I’m not able to find too much information online as to how it would affect me, but it sounds like it wouldn’t be an issue with the regionals but would be a black mark in the eyes of the majors.
To follow up to your post, what kind of impact would having a general discharge from the military be on getting picked up by the majors? I’m fairly certain this won’t happen to me, but I’m definitely looking to plan for every scenario in case it does. I would have excellent references from my supervisors and commander. I’m not able to find too much information online as to how it would affect me, but it sounds like it wouldn’t be an issue with the regionals but would be a black mark in the eyes of the majors.
Anyway, I believe there is a flying career out there for you just stay focused. Good Luck!
#16
I appreciate the detailed response from you and everyone else in the thread.
To follow up to your post, what kind of impact would having a general discharge from the military be on getting picked up by the majors? I’m fairly certain this won’t happen to me, but I’m definitely looking to plan for every scenario in case it does. I would have excellent references from my supervisors and commander. I’m not able to find too much information online as to how it would affect me, but it sounds like it wouldn’t be an issue with the regionals but would be a black mark in the eyes of the majors.
To follow up to your post, what kind of impact would having a general discharge from the military be on getting picked up by the majors? I’m fairly certain this won’t happen to me, but I’m definitely looking to plan for every scenario in case it does. I would have excellent references from my supervisors and commander. I’m not able to find too much information online as to how it would affect me, but it sounds like it wouldn’t be an issue with the regionals but would be a black mark in the eyes of the majors.
#17
I appreciate the detailed response from you and everyone else in the thread.
To follow up to your post, what kind of impact would having a general discharge from the military be on getting picked up by the majors? I’m fairly certain this won’t happen to me, but I’m definitely looking to plan for every scenario in case it does. I would have excellent references from my supervisors and commander. I’m not able to find too much information online as to how it would affect me, but it sounds like it wouldn’t be an issue with the regionals but would be a black mark in the eyes of the majors.
To follow up to your post, what kind of impact would having a general discharge from the military be on getting picked up by the majors? I’m fairly certain this won’t happen to me, but I’m definitely looking to plan for every scenario in case it does. I would have excellent references from my supervisors and commander. I’m not able to find too much information online as to how it would affect me, but it sounds like it wouldn’t be an issue with the regionals but would be a black mark in the eyes of the majors.
A general discharge under less than honorable conditions would pretty much put you first in line at the majors behind everyone with a general discharge under honorable conditions but ahead of everyone with an actual dishonorable discharge.
I’m not sure that line has ever moved, actually.
#18
On Reserve
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 21
A general discharge under honorable conditions is ...not great.
A general discharge under less than honorable conditions would pretty much put you first in line at the majors behind everyone with a general discharge under honorable conditions but ahead of everyone with an actual dishonorable discharge.
I’m not sure that line has ever moved, actually.
A general discharge under less than honorable conditions would pretty much put you first in line at the majors behind everyone with a general discharge under honorable conditions but ahead of everyone with an actual dishonorable discharge.
I’m not sure that line has ever moved, actually.
#19
On Reserve
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 21
Without going into too much detail the situation is out of my and my commanders hands at this point. My commander and immediate supervisor are on my side, but there's a "zero tolerance" rule in the military where regardless of if I intended to or not I ingested some illicit substance. I guess that kind if gives it away, but if you or anyone have any other questions about my situation you can PM me.
#20
On Reserve
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 21
It's obviously very important to receive an Honorable Discharge. Are there Lawyers specializing in "discharge upgrades"??? Is there an option to transfer to a National Guard Unit or Reserve Unit, Category E reserves or another reserve component of any branch of service? The "General Discharge under honorable conditions" is certainly not ideal but obviously better than OTH Other than honorable. When I was hired by the majors, HR definitely paid attention to my military service and character of discharge. I doubt they will overlook it but perhaps earning a subsequent honorable discharge from the Reserves or Guard would help if you can get on board even in a non flying, Enlisted or Warrant Officer capacity. You are correct in saying a "black mark". I'm even wondering if current volunteer service in the Civil Air Patrol or State Defense Forces would help??
Anyway, I believe there is a flying career out there for you just stay focused. Good Luck!
Anyway, I believe there is a flying career out there for you just stay focused. Good Luck!
From the research I've down so far it doesn't sound likely to have a general discharge upgraded to honorable after the fact unless you claim some sort of medical/PTSD reason which does not apply to me.
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