Navy carrier Captain fired.
04-03-2020, 01:24 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by leftondelta
I'm not a Naval Aviator, however have been CO of a ship. His intentions may have been sound and justified, however how he went about it is what likely got him relieved.
I'm inclined to believe this guy ended up saving lives here, depending on the degree of dereliction that could have ensued in responding to the imperative in the typical feet-dragging inertial manner, as a result of the political appeasement of the "readiness" cult within the DOD circles.
That's the thing with saving lives though, you can never "prove a negative" with these feckless Pentagon apparatchiks.
Last edited by hindsight2020; 04-03-2020 at 01:40 PM.
04-03-2020, 01:52 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by hindsight2020
*yawn* that's stipulated. That's the sideshow. The buried lead here is you assume the time-sensitive at-large disembarking outcome would have been attainable had he followed the "channels". Isn't that the real subtext behind this perceived deviation in the first place? IOW, kinda chucking stones at the guy from the cheap seats, considering the former supposition is very much facts not in evidence.
I'm inclined to believe this guy ended up saving lives here, depending on the degree of dereliction that could have ensued in responding to the imperative in the typical feet-dragging inertial manner, as a result of the political appeasement of the "readiness" cult within the DOD circles.
That's the thing with saving lives though, you can never "prove a negative" with these feckless Pentagon apparatchiks.
I'm inclined to believe this guy ended up saving lives here, depending on the degree of dereliction that could have ensued in responding to the imperative in the typical feet-dragging inertial manner, as a result of the political appeasement of the "readiness" cult within the DOD circles.
That's the thing with saving lives though, you can never "prove a negative" with these feckless Pentagon apparatchiks.
I can think of a couple ways to immediately draw top level attention if I wasn't getting anywhere with my chain of command on an issue I felt was emergent. Sending an unclass e-mail which indirectly addresses the combat readiness of a strategic asset isn't one of them.
Sending the e-mail and cc'ing (according to reporting) ~30 people just reeks of his intent being that one of those people would leak it. If that wasn't his intent, as a senior O6, he should have damn well known the risk of it being leaked and going viral given the current atmosphere.
Either way, moot point. He's gone.
04-03-2020, 02:36 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by hindsight2020
That's stipulated. That's the sideshow. The buried lead here is folks assume the time-sensitive at-large disembarking outcome would have been attainable had he followed the "channels". Isn't that the real subtext behind this perceived deviation in the first place? IOW, kinda chucking stones at the guy from the cheap seats, considering the former supposition is very much facts not in evidence.
I'm inclined to believe this guy ended up saving lives here, depending on the degree of dereliction that could have ensued in responding to the imperative in the typical feet-dragging inertial manner, as a result of the political appeasement of the "readiness" cult within the DOD circles.
That's the thing with saving lives though, you can never "prove a negative" with these feckless Pentagon apparatchiks.
I'm inclined to believe this guy ended up saving lives here, depending on the degree of dereliction that could have ensued in responding to the imperative in the typical feet-dragging inertial manner, as a result of the political appeasement of the "readiness" cult within the DOD circles.
That's the thing with saving lives though, you can never "prove a negative" with these feckless Pentagon apparatchiks.
04-03-2020, 03:47 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by leftondelta
Either way, moot point. He's gone.
04-04-2020, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by aeroengineer
In any other universe I would agree with you but as Badflaps alluded to I could see Trump completely reversing this. Trump loves to play to the crowd. Protocol be damned.
He re-instated that frogman's trident, but that was window-dressing, there was and is no way the guy was ever getting near an operational team again.
04-04-2020, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
You watch, this guy is going straight to Washington. Maybe some stars.
Time to break out the golf clubs.
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