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Old 04-06-2020, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Nope.

Not denigrating the guy personally at all, or failing to understand all the issues he had to deal with. For that matter, he has corona virus himself and HE is old enough that it IS a nontrivial threat to him. Perhaps having it himself even affected his own decision making in this debacle, some people do get mental effects with it:

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928157
The implications for everyone who contracts COVID 19 and holds an FAA medical are certainly nontrivial.

I will say good luck Captain and I wish you a speedy recovery.
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:19 PM
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The boss just said he was going to get involved. Should be interesting.
Not what I just read, so one of our stories is wrong:

At Monday's White House briefing of the coronavirus task force, President Trump said that he “may just get involved” in how the disciplining of Crozier was handled. “I’m good at settling these arguments,” Trump said of Modly's remarks criticizing Crozier. While Trump said he had “heard good things” about both Crozier and Modly, he did not approve of the letter Crozier had written detailing that his sailors were ill.

“It shows weakness. And there's nothing weak about us now. Not anymore,” Trump said. “We don't want to have letter-writing campaigns where the fake news finds a letter, gets a leak. We don't want that.”
But to be fair, the Captain probably should not have emailed his letter, he should have tweeted it on twitter, the current medium for official communication.
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:31 PM
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Modly’s speech was a fireable offense, too. Just awful. Correct, Twitter is the OBO preferred means of communications.
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Old 04-06-2020, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
..the FIRST thing you learn as a Naval Officer is to use the chain of command. Listened to ASECNAV's presses this morning. From the DOD side of the equation he's done.
And the SECOND thing you learn is “praise in public, reprimand in private”. I guess ASecNav missed that somewhere in his illustrious 7 years as a JO. What a D bag.
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Old 04-07-2020, 03:54 AM
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And the SECOND thing you learn is “praise in public, reprimand in private”. I guess ASecNav missed that somewhere in his illustrious 7 years as a JO. What a D bag.
And the commander sets the tone for the unit and those below him. Is anyone really surprised?
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Old 04-07-2020, 04:03 AM
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Modly’s speech was a fireable offense, too. Just awful. Correct, Twitter is the OBO preferred means of communications.
Absolutely agree.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:11 AM
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SECDEF ordered (A)SECNAV to apologize for his remarks to the crew...
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mink View Post
And the SECOND thing you learn is “praise in public, reprimand in private”. I guess ASecNav missed that somewhere in his illustrious 7 years as a JO. What a D bag.
I have to agree with you there.
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:10 AM
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I doubt anyone advised SECNAV to go do that talk. Not a wise move. As SECNAV, he has others to handle this directly.

Irrespective of that, Crozier deserved to be fired for his actions. None of us would have accepted that sort of thing from an O-3.

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Old 04-07-2020, 12:12 PM
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that was fast
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