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Old 04-02-2020, 03:50 PM   #1  
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Default Navy carrier Captain fired.

I know we have quite a few navy pilots here. What is your opinion on this. Don't answer if you are still on active duty, or in the reserves or guard.

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Was there suppose to be a link?

What were the circumstances of his relief?
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No specific link. I'm not that computer literate.

Check USAtoday.com.

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If he leaked an internal official memo to the media, and caused possible embarrassment to the Navy, he may be in hot water.
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https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2.../?oref=d-river

Dumb to go out of the chain of command when they were already working the problem. Real dumb to send it to a newspaper.

Finding quarters for an additional 3000 people actually does take a little time. Especially on Guam. The naval base there isn’t what you’d call large. Both Anderson AFB and the Navy base there total about 7000 personnel, although that probably includes the Guam National Guard too. Whole damn island only has about 150,000 residents and the carrier had just arrived there.


https://news.usni.org/2020/04/01/nav...am-hotel-rooms
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I served with CAPT Crozier as a Dept Head in VFA-125.
Outstanding Officer!

There is so little room for error today.
Based on what I remember of of him I would be very surprised that he would do something outside the chain and for malicious intent. Such a hard call for leadership to make.

CAPT Crosier’s career has ended.
I can not say whether the action was justified or not.
All I know is that I am saddened by this event.
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If he leaked an internal official memo to the media, and caused possible embarrassment to the Navy, he may be in hot water.
No, actually nobody on the inside thinks he leaked it, including me (the current crop of carrier CO's are my year group peers, I know several of them).

The CoC was not happy with the fact that the letter was not handled with very strict controls. Should have been classified and handled accordingly, I personally would have definitely classified documents reflecting a major readiness issue for a major military capability.

1. The letter was very politically sensitive, and the CoC was entitled to an opportunity to field it within proper channels.
2. The ship is a major weapon system, a key instrument of national power.
3. It is forward deployed (in a "warm" zone).
4. It is powered by nuclear reactors (which cannot be instantly shut down and rendered inert).
5. It carries significant munitions.

I don't believe for an instant he leaked it intentionally. I do agree with his relief, assuming the letter was transmitted through unsecure channels (I have reason to believe it was, but have no way of knowing for certain).

He might have gotten away with a minor security transgression (so easy to do these days) if it hadn't landed on the front page of major media outlets.
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The info deserved the same degree of classification - at the minimum - as any commander’s assessment in a UNITREP document. Even at the squadron level, that’s at least a TS.
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Talking to my buddies on the TR they're pretty livid about Chopper being fired.

On top of big Navy already screwing away the situation, firing Chopper in the middle of a crisis is unbelievable.
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Regardless of how livid the TR pilots are, the FIRST thing you learn as a Naval Officer is to use the chain of command. Listened to ASECNAV's presses this morning. From the DOD side of the equation he's done.
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