What about the CRAF aircraft/crew?
05-14-2020, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ipdanno
The Lockheed C130 was fully certificated, hence the L382 type on my FAA license. The C141 also achieved certification, as NASA operated at least one. That was the L400 or L4xx type. The last time I saw it was out at Moffett Field, Mountain View, CA. Alas, Lockheed was unable to interest anyone in a certificated C5, although years ago, in a model shop, I saw wooden C5 model in white, with red trim, and L500 on the fuselage.
The C130 has been very successfully operated as a pax and cargo craft in the civilian world, both internationally and in the U.S. Lynden Air Cargo, the earlier version of Southern Air, and even Delta Air Lines had a C130 fleet!
The C130 has been very successfully operated as a pax and cargo craft in the civilian world, both internationally and in the U.S. Lynden Air Cargo, the earlier version of Southern Air, and even Delta Air Lines had a C130 fleet!
Civilians have mostly moved on from four-engine planes due to improved engine reliability, but for tactical mil planes the enemy also gets a vote on that reliability. Plus I think mil transports simply simply need to carry denser cargo than civvie equivalents.
The 747 was designed as an pax plane, but the hump was to allow the nose to swing up for cargo and IIRC it was submitted as a candidate for the competition which selected the C-5 as the mil heavy lifter.
05-14-2020, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yes the C-130 was the notable exception, although it's life in civvie cargo wasn't exactly in the modern era, I guess you can give it credit since they still make a mil version. It hit a real design sweet spot for tactical intra-theater transport... the Euros didn't stray too far from the mold when they decided to build a modern transport (A400). Naturally the soviets built a copy too.
Civilians have mostly moved on from four-engine planes due to improved engine reliability, but for tactical mil planes the enemy also gets a vote on that reliability. Plus I think mil transports simply simply need to carry denser cargo than civvie equivalents.
The 747 was designed as an pax plane, but the hump was to allow the nose to swing up for cargo and IIRC it was submitted as a candidate for the competition which selected the C-5 as the mil heavy lifter.
Civilians have mostly moved on from four-engine planes due to improved engine reliability, but for tactical mil planes the enemy also gets a vote on that reliability. Plus I think mil transports simply simply need to carry denser cargo than civvie equivalents.
The 747 was designed as an pax plane, but the hump was to allow the nose to swing up for cargo and IIRC it was submitted as a candidate for the competition which selected the C-5 as the mil heavy lifter.
05-23-2020, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ipdanno
The Lockheed C130 was fully certificated, hence the L382 type on my FAA license. The C141 also achieved certification, as NASA operated at least one. That was the L400 or L4xx type. The last time I saw it was out at Moffett Field, Mountain View, CA. Alas, Lockheed was unable to interest anyone in a certificated C5, although years ago, in a model shop, I saw wooden C5 model in white, with red trim, and L500 on the fuselage.
The C130 has been very successfully operated as a pax and cargo craft in the civilian world, both internationally and in the U.S. Lynden Air Cargo, the earlier version of Southern Air, and even Delta Air Lines had a C130 fleet!
The C130 has been very successfully operated as a pax and cargo craft in the civilian world, both internationally and in the U.S. Lynden Air Cargo, the earlier version of Southern Air, and even Delta Air Lines had a C130 fleet!
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