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Old 10-05-2020, 08:30 AM   #21  
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KC-130 landed off airport gear-up... and there are several long runways in that immediate area
Unless you're light, with strong engines on a cool day the two engine service ceiling is usually underground.

KC-130, full of gas, hot day in El Sweato.... the fact that these guys walked away is DFC level airmanship.
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Unless you're light, with strong engines on a cool day the two engine service ceiling is usually underground.

KC-130, full of gas, hot day in El Sweato.... the fact that these guys walked away is DFC level airmanship.
I was commenting on the severity of the situation, not second-guessing anyone's airmanship.
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Old 10-05-2020, 03:33 PM   #23  
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In a jet with an ejection seat? Meh.

Try it in helicopter on NVGs with zero illum.

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Try it in helicopter on NVGs with zero illum.

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Old 10-05-2020, 08:07 PM   #26  
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Try it in helicopter on NVGs with zero illum.

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Having done it both with/without, Id rather do it on goggles.
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Having done it both with/without, Id rather do it on goggles.
Hey Capt Obvious, did you ever make Maj?
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Hey Capt Obvious, did you ever make Maj?
Thats ADMIRAL Obvious to you!

Lol, valid...I just always wondered why tanking on goggles was frowned upon/prohibited. It was way easier.
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Unless you're light, with strong engines on a cool day the two engine service ceiling is usually underground.

KC-130, full of gas, hot day in El Sweato.... the fact that these guys walked away is DFC level airmanship.
Agreed. The Bone guys putting the jet in KMAF with fire warnings that didn't go out and choosing to save the life of the WSO after his seat did not fire, got DFCs out of the deal. These dudes with a midair, two engines without teeth on the same side, and full of go-juice? Putting that pig on the field upright and controlled without going kaboom probably earns them DFCs, unless they caused the collision. So far, no indications of the latter, so I'm inclined to say these guys walk away with major hardware out this deal.
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