UFO Radar plots from USS Omaha
#11
A question for those in the know about more advanced military capabilities. Wouldn't an AEGIS class frigate or destroyer have extensive electronic sensing and monitoring capabilities? I toured an Aegis Class Destroyer, DDG-53, John Paul Jones, on an overnight in San Diego.
The Electronic Warfare stations were of course off-limits to civilians, but the technology was impressive and constantly upgrade-able according to our guide. Wouldn't a ship be able to quickly determine if a drone is being controlled via a complete spectrum sweep of RF energy. You might not be able to decode packet burst frequency hopping signals, but you can tell if they are present.
The Electronic Warfare stations were of course off-limits to civilians, but the technology was impressive and constantly upgrade-able according to our guide. Wouldn't a ship be able to quickly determine if a drone is being controlled via a complete spectrum sweep of RF energy. You might not be able to decode packet burst frequency hopping signals, but you can tell if they are present.
Also since such drones would probably be operating in the same general spectrum as all the other LOS/near-LOS gadgets we have in the world today it would be hard to isolate that from background stuff, unless you're in deep blue water, which they weren't.
The combat tactical resolution of the drone problem is just to shoot them down (not hard against COTS-like hardware). But you can't do that just because they're observing you off socal in peacetime, about the only place we've decided that legally we can just splash drones with no questions asked is in the nuclear weapons security realm... and yes there's a good reason they went there. Jamming works too if you know what to jam.
#12
Thanks for the update. I had to look up what LPD/LPI stuff was and wouldn't you know it there is a scientific paper on it from the Chinese. The PLA or Peoples Liberation Army no less.
Research on Technology of LPI / LPD Communication Wang Tongxiang Institute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjing, China e-mail: [email protected] Fan Jianhua Nanjing telecommunication technology institute Nanjing, China Zhang YuInstitute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjin
[Search domain atlantis-press.com] https://www.atlantis-press.com/article/12156.pdf
Research on Technology of LPI / LPD Communication Wang Tongxiang Institute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjing, China e-mail: [email protected] Fan Jianhua Nanjing telecommunication technology institute Nanjing, China Zhang YuInstitute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjin
[Search domain atlantis-press.com] https://www.atlantis-press.com/article/12156.pdf
#13
Thanks for the update. I had to look up what LPD/LPI stuff was and wouldn't you know it there is a scientific paper on it from the Chinese. The PLA or Peoples Liberation Army no less.
Research on Technology of LPI / LPD Communication Wang Tongxiang Institute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjing, China e-mail: [email protected] Fan Jianhua Nanjing telecommunication technology institute Nanjing, China Zhang YuInstitute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjin
[Search domain atlantis-press.com] https://www.atlantis-press.com/article/12156.pdf
Research on Technology of LPI / LPD Communication Wang Tongxiang Institute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjing, China e-mail: [email protected] Fan Jianhua Nanjing telecommunication technology institute Nanjing, China Zhang YuInstitute of communication engineering PLA university of science and technology Nanjin
[Search domain atlantis-press.com] https://www.atlantis-press.com/article/12156.pdf
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There are some who have carefully looked at the videos and come up with logical explanations.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ideos-skeptics
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ideos-skeptics
#15
There are some who have carefully looked at the videos and come up with logical explanations.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ideos-skeptics
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ideos-skeptics
However, in addition to IR images there are some pretty credible pilots who had Mk1 Mod0 eyeball lock on those things as well. Also if there were other people's fighters off the coast of the US we'd know that... no way for them to get there without big aircraft carriers which 1) there are very few in service, like a couple, 2) we know where they all are, and 3) we'd see them coming thousands of miles out.
#16
Another interesting phenomenon is in space how cosmic radiation passing through the retina of an astronaut would cause a "flash" and they would see something that wasn't there.
People's brains do strange things when they are alone and in general when perceiving events. They either ignore certain sensory inputs or insert things that were never originally there. This spans the spectrum from imperceptible to absolutely ridiculous, but the person 100% believes in what their brain tells them (because really, there is nothing else for them to go on), so it's "honest", it's just not reality. Very common topic in human factors design and ergonomics.
People's brains do strange things when they are alone and in general when perceiving events. They either ignore certain sensory inputs or insert things that were never originally there. This spans the spectrum from imperceptible to absolutely ridiculous, but the person 100% believes in what their brain tells them (because really, there is nothing else for them to go on), so it's "honest", it's just not reality. Very common topic in human factors design and ergonomics.
#17
That actually happens to all of us, it's just nowhere near as frequent under the atmosphere. But that kind of flash is instantaneous, so it's not like you could actually "observe" the "object". It's just a flash. If anything it would be mistaken for a meteor streak at night.
If you get a very large dose of radiation in a short time you'd experience a lot of that. That would be bad.
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[QUOTE=Allegheny;3242607]To add the publicized F18 Hud footage of UFO's, adding to the recent 60minutes interview with former Naval Aviators we now have multi-sensor radar and FLIR plots from multiple ships. This segment is from the USS Omaha. https://www.wate.com/news/radar-data...-by-ufo-swarm/
For the sake of pure argument: Why would these objects only appear to the Navy? ....”
It’s a simple answer. In a word, GROG!
For the sake of pure argument: Why would these objects only appear to the Navy? ....”
It’s a simple answer. In a word, GROG!
#20
Just to inject some humor into this. I bet S.H.A.D.O knows what’s going on. Name the TV show.
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