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terpaturtle 04-18-2024 01:38 PM

Missing Period of Individual Flight History
 
Looking for suggestions,

I have my green folder from when SARM initally converted to digital, and my individual lines by lines from 2021 onward.

What I am missing however is a year of 2019-2020.
Anyone know a way that I could recover those IFRs?

If not, any specific way I should present my logbooks to airlines?

Thanks in advance.

terpaturtle 04-18-2024 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by terpaturtle (Post 3794012)
Looking for suggestions,

I have my green folder from when SARM initally converted to digital, and my individual lines by lines from 2021 onward.

What I am missing however is a year of 2019-2020.
Anyone know a way that I could recover those IFRs?

If not, any specific way I should present my logbooks to airlines?

Thanks in advance.

Also, I have a digital record I kept myself of all my actual PIC/SIC/CFI time.
ARMS line-by-lines are just for an official record.

Excargodog 04-18-2024 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by terpaturtle (Post 3794012)
Looking for suggestions,

I have my green folder from when SARM initally converted to digital, and my individual lines by lines from 2021 onward.

What I am missing however is a year of 2019-2020.
Anyone know a way that I could recover those IFRs?

If not, any specific way I should present my logbooks to airlines?

Thanks in advance.

I have a leftover Top Secret stamp if you don't really need the hours...😉

tnkrdrvr 04-18-2024 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by terpaturtle (Post 3794015)
Also, I have a digital record I kept myself of all my actual PIC/SIC/CFI time.
ARMS line-by-lines are just for an official record.

Technically, they can’t make you divulge your HARM records or your FEF. So if your personal copies raise no questions you should be fine. Does your final HARM report include time from the most records or did they restart you at zero? This might require some explanation, but probably not a deal killer

IFR Cx Rcvd 04-19-2024 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by terpaturtle (Post 3794012)
Looking for suggestions,

I have my green folder from when SARM initally converted to digital, and my individual lines by lines from 2021 onward.

What I am missing however is a year of 2019-2020.
Anyone know a way that I could recover those IFRs?

If not, any specific way I should present my logbooks to airlines?

Thanks in advance.

Each airline has their own way of handling loss of original records. Your best bet is to ask the recruiters directly when you’re offered an interview. At least for AA, you can write a notarized letter stating you lost ARMS records during that period but you kept a digital log and your FHR contains that time. An MFR from HARM stating they can’t access them probably wouldn’t hurt either.

If you used GTIMS or PEX during that time, see if you can get some kind of report. Unfortunately, after AAMS shut down last year, there’s no way to get the individual flights off ARMS beyond 18 months ago.

terpaturtle 04-19-2024 06:29 AM

Thanks everyone for the input.

Thankfully my FHR includes those flights/that time so I don't think I'll have any issue justifying my personal digital logbook times.
I will probably get HARM to write me and MFR just to cover myself.

flensr 04-20-2024 09:02 AM

I spent some deployed down time converting my entire history to a digital logbook and when it came to some missing records I made a single entry in my logbook with the totals, and in the remarks I made a note to reference the memo from HARM office detailing the records correction for the hours.

I never had to refer to it, but it was one less thing I had to worry about when going into a logbook review, no different than tabbing every checkride, qual ride, certificate, etc. so they're easy to find when you get the questions like "can you show me the entry where you got your xxx type" or "show me your checkride entry after you came back from that 2 year break in flying". The better prepared you are for those questions, the more confident you'll be during the entire interview process and they won't have as much to pick at when looking for problems.


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