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blastoff 03-30-2008 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by DILLA (Post 351420)
I have compared officer pay tables on the internet between the AFRes and the Army Res. and there seems to be a 10:1 ratio between to two. Am I looking at the wrong information.

Probably...I believe Drill pay is Drill pay..its a federal pay scale not just an Air Force pay scale. One thing the AF probably has that the Army doesn't is "Training Periods" or TP's (pronounced "teeps"), which gets you an extra couple days a month (8 per quarter) at drill pay.

Chris99 03-30-2008 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by sigtauenus (Post 261491)
You can still get enough points IRR to get the reserve retirement, but you are basically coasting on the active time you already have. 50 pts a year doesn't really add up to much of an increase in the retirement check.

Any inputs as to how similar the Navy or Marine reserve pay works? Is it the same?

I had nine years of AD when I took the VSP last year. How many years of IRR does it take to "earn" a retirement? Do you have to do a liason job to earn points, or just be in the IRR and do nothing? I have a three year commitment in the IRR and then I don't know what happens, but my ID card says "INDEF." What other "IRR jobs" are available? I'm in Colorado BTW.

Chris

UAL T38 Phlyer 03-30-2008 12:20 PM

IRR and Retirement
 
Chris 99:

You need 11 "Good Years." Any service should work the same, because as Blastoff said, it is all Federal pay-scale.

Good years:

You would need to earn at least 50 points a year. You get 15 for being alive, BUT, they don't count for retirement pay!! Depending upon your duty status, you usually get 1 pt per pay-period. However, pay periods can be 4 hours (TPs or UTA), or 8 hours (Annual Training (AT), or Man-Power Authorizations (MPA).

TPs don't always earn points, though. You only get 24 from TPs a year. Any other TPs you get paid for the day, but it doesn't build retirement points.

Assuming you retire as a Capt / O-3, each 50-pt year will increase your monthly retirement check by about $15.00. This is a guess only, but I would say O-3 retirement pay (in today's dollars) is about $900-1000/mo.

So yes, you WOULD need to "work" to get those additional points to make it a Good Year.

Bear in mind that you don't get any money from retirement until you turn 60. There are continuing attempts to reduce this based upon length of service, or number of deployments to crap-holes. So far, all shot down because it costs too much.

But at least Congress voted themselves a raise.

This discussion is about guys who are drilling and getting paid. I'm not certain how it works in the IRR--I think you work on a volunteer basis for points-only.

Slice 03-30-2008 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Chris99 (Post 351623)
I had nine years of AD when I took the VSP last year. How many years of IRR does it take to "earn" a retirement? Do you have to do a liason job to earn points, or just be in the IRR and do nothing? I have a three year commitment in the IRR and then I don't know what happens, but my ID card says "INDEF." What other "IRR jobs" are available? I'm in Colorado BTW.

Chris

Don't you have to pay the VSP back if you decide to take a guard retirement? It may not be worth the money and ass pain if you invest it wisely now.

UAL T38 Phlyer 03-30-2008 02:16 PM

VSP Buyout
 
Slice:

Good point--I think the buyout does pre-empt the retirement.

Best bet: call the closest MPF, and if you want to get a straight answer, call the MPF for a Reserve unit. Try Buckley (the Guard F-16 squadron), or Peterson (Herc Reserve unit, I think).

GunnF16 03-30-2008 07:19 PM

My wife used to be a MX officer and has her first IRR muster duty (head count) in 3 weeks. She hasn't heard of "IRR" jobs, but if we find anything out about how what it takes to get 50 points, we'll let you know.

Chris99 03-31-2008 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by GunnF16 (Post 351919)
My wife used to be a MX officer and has her first IRR muster duty (head count) in 3 weeks. She hasn't heard of "IRR" jobs, but if we find anything out about how what it takes to get 50 points, we'll let you know.

Thanks Gunn. I haven't had to do a "muster," but I've heard of others who have. Do you get extra points for those?

I was thinking of looking into a USAFA/CAP liason job that wouldn't require any time away from home as I already spend two weeks a month on the road. I just didn't know if I could collect a retirement without even getting those jobs. Family time is really important to me, not the retirement money.

Slice, I'm not worried about paying back the VSP upon retirement because it will already be paid back with VA pay...

Chris99 03-31-2008 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 351691)
Slice:

Good point--I think the buyout does pre-empt the retirement.

Best bet: call the closest MPF, and if you want to get a straight answer, call the MPF for a Reserve unit. Try Buckley (the Guard F-16 squadron), or Peterson (Herc Reserve unit, I think).

I don't want a flying job because then I would be away from home three weeks out of the month. I was just curious what would be the easiest way to make the minimum retirement to have something in my back pocket for after age 60...

UAL T38 Phlyer 03-31-2008 08:54 AM

Space Command
 
I have a buddy who works--or worked--at Space Command at C-Springs. Non-flying, and paying. Worth a shot.

I think most of this is done at the compound out east of C-Springs, not Cheyenne Mountain. However, Buckley does a lot of space stuff now too (well, they always did, but now they are up-front about it, and changed it from a Guard Base to an Air Force Base).

Chris99 03-31-2008 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 352153)
I have a buddy who works--or worked--at Space Command at C-Springs. Non-flying, and paying. Worth a shot.

I think most of this is done at the compound out east of C-Springs, not Cheyenne Mountain. However, Buckley does a lot of space stuff now too (well, they always did, but now they are up-front about it, and changed it from a Guard Base to an Air Force Base).

Thanks for the lead. I looked up the general number for Schriever AFB, but do you know if your friend was working in the 50th Space Wing?


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