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02-26-2006, 08:40 AM

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Tanker to Airline career progression

Hi. This is my first post in this forum though I've watched it for a while and am pleased that a military transition forum has developed. I'm currently in the KC-135R (I've noticed a few tanker guys out there) with 8.5 years or so left on my ADSC. Is there a preferred career progression in the USAF that will best serve an airline transition later in life. In other words, are airlines interested in MDS instructors or would AETC instructor time be just as valuable? Also, I developed my own logbook based on AFTO Form 781 entries. Am I best served by my homegrown logbook or my nice, professional Jeppesen logbook?

02-26-2006, 09:50 AM

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PIC time in a big ol jet, lots of it! Log book..just fill it up...Good luck!

02-26-2006, 04:28 PM

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Hated the being in AETC, however, you cannot argue with the PIC time. I think AETC helped my resume stand out. The instructor time and evaluator time is good stuff. Just keep hacking at the PIC time. My $0.02.

02-27-2006, 06:32 PM

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Am I best served by my homegrown logbook or my nice, professional Jeppesen logbook?

CAFB 04-12, you were 2 classes before me. Anyway, the airlines will be just as happy with a flight records printout from your SARM office. Of course having a nice logbook won't hurt, but it's not a nessacity. Keeping 781's and/or creating your own log is good backup. You know how good the Air Force is at losing your stuff.

02-28-2006, 07:51 AM

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Were you at Columbus? (04-14?)

02-28-2006, 09:52 AM

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I was for T-1's. I was at Moody for T-6's in 04-13.

03-04-2006, 08:33 PM

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Most airlines want PIC time (Instructor or Aircraft Commander, not Check Airman) but they also like to see that you've had some leadership positions, like Check Airman, Chief of Such-and-Such. They don't like to see too much ground-pounding and paper-pushing. Stay current, fly in command and step up to the plate from time to time. And remember all your buddies ... they can help you or hurt you!

03-05-2006, 09:17 AM

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I was CAFB 04-14 (WarHawk).
As for log books, I keep one for my general av stuff then I use the rip from my flight records. I do this for the simple reason of not duplicating the hours logged. Some airlines don't care if its one log book and I've heard that they will dig sometimes dig if you are a Mil. dude with no RIP. It's just what I heard.

03-20-2006, 10:40 AM

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if one were to apply to tons of guard units, and was offered to go to upt for f16 in one, or a kc135/kc10 if hes really lucky, in another unit. which would you do? instant pic time? or wait a few years and start building the widebody pic teh airlines love

03-20-2006, 05:25 PM

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It all depends on what you want. Do you want to fly fighters or heavies? As much as people think flying heavies is better for transitioning to the commercial world, most airlines won't necessarily give preference to someone with 2,000 hours of KC-135 time over someone with 2,000 hours of F-16 time. It may come down to other things on the resume that set the heavy pilot apart from the fighter pilot, or vice versa. Of course flying a heavy in the AF is going to be the closest thing to flying a commercial airliner stick and rudder wise.