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USMCFLYR 07-22-2008 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Nortonious (Post 430447)
One of these days I'm gonna make Farnborough! I don't doubt your observations and probably would have agreed with you had I seen it also. It's tough to size up the superior fighter from an airshow. For the record, I've always thought the Blue Angels had a better show than the Thunderbirds (sorry to my T-Bird bros, I still love ya, it must be something about that configured aileron roll the Blue Angels do after t/o), but from my knowledge of both aircraft, I'd rather ride the Viper into combat. Now if I had to land on a boat afterwards, my answer would change.

I recently saw them both a couple of times and I would have to agree with you.

Funny how loyal we are to our fighters huh? If nothing else - I like two engines.

USMCFLYR

denlopviper 07-22-2008 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 430620)
Typhoon, definitely.


with the kind of money they put into it, it should be :D

dtfl 07-22-2008 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by denlopviper (Post 430856)
with the kind of money they put into it, it should be :D

It shoud be............cool on a poster?

I know I am merely a 'heavy driver" who flew -38s and SOF aircraft and am, merely a tactics dude...but everything I have seen and heard and read regarding the Typhoon is...... it is a great airplane...if it was 1994.

Like I said...even the LM guys were making fun of it.
Actually..what a test pilot (whom I was standing next to during one of the Typhoon demos at Farnborough 2004) said was "Ya know what we call that at Lockheed?................A TARGET!"

Hacker15e 07-23-2008 12:31 PM

Yeah, it would have been a great airplane 15 years ago.

Just like the Raptor would have if it would have been fielded on time.

Hell, the F-15E was a cool airplane 15 years ago, too.

Nortonious 07-23-2008 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 431691)
Yeah, it would have been a great airplane 15 years ago.
Just like the Raptor would have if it would have been fielded on time.
Hell, the F-15E was a cool airplane 15 years ago, too.

Raptor is a quantum leap from previous fighters...a true 5th Gen Fighter (and arguably the only 5th Gen Fighter)
15E, Block 50/60 Vipers both great jets but 4th Gen
Typhoon/Eurofighter? I dunno, maybe Gen 4.2 or so and I think that's generous. Really, I'd rather have a 15E or a couple of Vipers for the money.

Photon 07-23-2008 02:13 PM

even if it's not an option, I'm gonna say raptor ;D.

On-topic, typhoon (out of the 3)

JayDee 07-23-2008 02:13 PM

As for me(Knowing squat about fighters) i would take anything built by lockheed over any eurocrap any day. Just because.

Nortonious 07-23-2008 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by JayDee (Post 431762)
As for me(Knowing squat about fighters) i would take anything built by lockheed over any eurocrap any day. Just because.

you are wise beyond your years

AZFlyer 07-23-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by III Corps (Post 430473)
When one looks back at the SAAB machine, they can not be counted out whether we are going back to the world's only fighter with a reverser (Viggen).

Two fighters....Panavia Tornado also has thrust reversers.

III Corps 07-24-2008 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 432019)
Two fighters....Panavia Tornado also has thrust reversers.

I stand corrected.. thanks for the fact check.


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