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Old 09-16-2008, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LivingInMEM View Post
Are you talking about the Army 3-ft wingspan line-of-sight remote control aircraft with a camera as opposed to the multi-million dollar USAF unmanned vehicles operating over-the-horizon at 300 knots with up to 5,000lbs of forward-firing ordnance in close proximity to manned aircraft and occasionally employing said ordnance in close proximity to friendly troops?

Why aren't you smarter on this?

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the army actually has several types of uavs, one of which is strikingly similar to a predator.

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Old 09-16-2008, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by webecheck View Post
the army actually has several types of uavs, one of which is strikingly similar to a predator.

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SWEET! Who is the Army is flying these?

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Old 09-16-2008, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by webecheck View Post
the army actually has several types of uavs, one of which is strikingly similar to a predator.

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I don't think so. From the site you referenced: "..The Army intends to procure 11 Warrior systems, each of these units has 12 UAVs and 5 ground control stations. With an expected total program cost of $1 billion, the aircraft is expected to become operational in 2009."

Given the cost of the program and the increased capabilities, any bets on whether the Army uses qualified rotary or fixed-wing pilots vs. regular ground troops?
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:12 PM
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I'm with LivinInMem. Having flown combat missions in Iraq and Afganistan, the most difficult piece of the puzzle was ensuring you were putting ordinance on the right spot, especially w/ CAS which has been 99.9999% of the missions since the first few nights of OEF and OIF.

I think we all knew this day was coming when unmanned aircraft would start "fighting" in combat. The future really snuck up on us.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:48 PM
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I think I remember the AF doing a test case where they used about 10 washouts from UPT and put them through UAV training. It was a failure. I don't think we should send guys right out of UPT to fly UAV's though. Either come up with another track that is designed for UAV's or let them get a tour under their belt.
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It sounds to me like experienced fighter pilots have the right skill sets to tackle the UAV mission 100%. They'll get my vote any day.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LivingInMEM View Post
I don't think so. From the site you referenced: "..The Army intends to procure 11 Warrior systems, each of these units has 12 UAVs and 5 ground control stations. With an expected total program cost of $1 billion, the aircraft is expected to become operational in 2009."

Given the cost of the program and the increased capabilities, any bets on whether the Army uses qualified rotary or fixed-wing pilots vs. regular ground troops?

dude, that wiki data is old, but unclass proof of its existance. i have been to iraq as an alo on the ground. i know what the army has and their capes. if you believe that all the army has or all they use is a tiny backpack launced rc airplane, you are wrong!

in addition, i once listened to 2 pimple nosed 18 yr olds talk about their job flying uavs while waiting in the laundry line.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyFastLiveSlow View Post
It sounds to me like experienced fighter pilots have the right skill sets to tackle the UAV mission 100%. They'll get my vote any day.
real funny man, i can appreciate the humor. you're probably right, but you wont find enough who wish to make it their permanent mws. the way i see it, since the upt commitment is 10yrs now, afpc should just send guys after their first tour b/c they cant 7 day opt it. for the leadership side, you'll get enough volunteers. and then theres the handful of guys who get medically dq'd or claim back/neck problems from pulling g's. send those guys, let them keep their flight pay. problem solved.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:35 AM
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The only thing worse than putting up with a nav would be putting up with the intel weenie telling you where to go and how to get there.

Talk about Pilot Hell.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by webecheck View Post
the army actually has several types of uavs, one of which is strikingly similar to a predator.

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True... but they are flown by Contractors... who are rated pilots.
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