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HoursHore 03-18-2009 12:36 PM

Maybe they have changed it. I had a tech tell me this to, many years ago.

slightly moving your head side to side helps a circle stand out as well, esp on the last ones.

KC10 FATboy 03-18-2009 01:46 PM

Yeah, I have to move my head a bit, relax, move my head around some more, then take an educated guess on those last ones. They really give me grief.

The first two are obvious to me. The next two are difficult but doable. The last two rows of circles, I'm guessing.

BDGERJMN 03-18-2009 02:54 PM

The best advice anyone ever gave me for an eye exam I was even remotely concerned about was: "be as hydrated as you can be and as well rested as possible", not often the most possible combination in this business.

iceman49 03-18-2009 03:58 PM

I never had a problem passing depth perception tests until I got into the AF...they sent me to a former Naval Flight Surgeon, he said no problem...notified the AF, they said I still had to pass a test. At the time the AF had an alternate test with a hand held device, passed it at the time, I think over the years I had it memorized.

Did some investigation and found out there were a number of one eyed airline pilots....additionally the standard depth perception test is an optical illusion, right off the bat approximately 50% of the people will not be able to pass it.

Never had a problem landing the 38 in weather or at night. If you do a lot of Cat3's, don't have to see anything. ;)

If you have any problem landing...the IPs will take care of it.

Go for it.

blastoff 03-20-2009 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by Kasserine06 (Post 580206)

If the goal of this test is to determine if I have the ability to safely land a plane (what every AF doctor has told me), then this needs to be reevaluated.

It is not about landing the plane. That's the easiest thing you'll do in the Air Force. It's about judging closure, like when joining on a formation mate, or since you gave 30 feet as an example, judging your position in the envelope when Air Refueling. There may be other times that you can use other ways to judge depth, but one day you could pull into your Formation Partner during an echelon turn.

BDGERJMN 03-20-2009 03:04 AM

K06,

One thing of note here...while most things are waiverable to a point in terms of medical standards(see waiver guides I posted) the decision to waive these items generally aren't made in a vacuum or by some arbitrary doctor's opinion or input to the medical folks. They are done with large scale studies to show data in support of the waiver guide recommendations. The point is what isn't waiverable today very well could be waiverable tomorrow. Depth perception as you well know is one of those items that is imperative to the safe operation of all military aircraft by definition/mission. You may get all the civilian second opinions you like and have all of the personal opinions about what it takes to fly military aircraft, but until you do, you may not understand what those on this board with the experience(s) sited are trying to say.

I applaud your efforts to keep trying and don't give up, just realize that sometimes what is written in black and white is there for a reason. I encourage you to re-read the AF's waiver guide that I posted, it appears your case is waiverable at first glance.

Best of luck


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