Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Career Builder > Military
Thinking about the Air Force Reserves >

Thinking about the Air Force Reserves

Notices
Military Military Aviation

Thinking about the Air Force Reserves

Old 08-30-2009, 11:48 AM
  #31  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 62
Default

OK.

Here's another question: Does an Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard job make it harder to get a civilian job? I've been told that there are laws to prevent employers from firing service people who have been deployed, but what about when it comes to getting hired?
runge is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 12:28 PM
  #32  
Line Holder
 
T-1A's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Instructor
Posts: 72
Default Yes

I was active duty for 10 years and left for the reserves. I had an interview at Netjets. All questions stopped after I said I was in the Reserves. Now I have a job as a civilian contractor at my reserve base... go figure.
T-1A is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 12:40 PM
  #33  
Gets Weekends Off
 
USMCFLYR's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
Posts: 13,835
Default

Originally Posted by T-1A View Post
I was active duty for 10 years and left for the reserves. I had an interview at Netjets. All questions stopped after I said I was in the Reserves. Now I have a job as a civilian contractor at my reserve base... go figure.
I had heard from quite a few peers who fly with NJA and are also in the Reserves that NJA was a very military friendly organization.

USMCFLYR
USMCFLYR is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 12:52 PM
  #34  
Line Holder
 
T-1A's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Instructor
Posts: 72
Default It's always about timing

When the economy is bad and you need 2 pilots with 10 in front of you equally qualified do you take the one that can get activated for 3 months? Or do you pick the one of the other 9 with no stings attached? I don't blame them. Had it been a year prior I don't think it would have mattered. It worked out for the best. I make more money and I'm home every night in my current job.
T-1A is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 12:55 PM
  #35  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Triumph's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: .
Posts: 348
Default

Originally Posted by T-1A View Post
I was active duty for 10 years and left for the reserves. I had an interview at Netjets. All questions stopped after I said I was in the Reserves. Now I have a job as a civilian contractor at my reserve base... go figure.
Disagree completely. I told them I flew in the Reserves, and the rest of the interview consisted of a few questions, followed by war stories. THEY personally mentioned that the NetJets job would go great with a reserve flying job. I got the job....
Triumph is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 12:58 PM
  #36  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 62
Default

Heh, wow. That's quite a disparity of experiences.

How about people pursuing a civilian job outside of airlines? Anybody?

I would think intuitively that you'd be less desirable to the typical employer. All that ANG means to them is that you're going to be away from work a lot. But what if you work in an Aerospace or Engineering field? I can see how in some ways it would be beneficial for an employee to have actual flight experience, but I'm sure the employer would rather not have that flight experience take place during time that the employee might otherwise be getting **** done....
runge is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 01:02 PM
  #37  
Line Holder
 
T-1A's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Instructor
Posts: 72
Default Glad it worked out for you

Maybe it's my interpretation, but I'm just saying you could have heard a pin drop when they found out and the interview ended rather abruptly. My guys weren't prior military either so who knows. Best of luck to you!
T-1A is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 03:03 PM
  #38  
Custom User Title
 
AZFlyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,268
Default

Coming from a guy who is also working towards earning a Guard slot, reality checks are certainly appreciated from you old heads, but why does reality always have to be so depressing!
AZFlyer is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 06:19 PM
  #39  
Line Holder
 
EP11's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: C-17, all of em
Posts: 66
Default

Originally Posted by runge View Post
Haha, yeah man. I think undergrad is like 72% guys right now. Fortunately I've already got a girlfriend and I bought her here with me. Otherwise I'd be going nuts.

I think it'll be worth it in some years to come away with a graduate degree from here, plus all the contacts I'll get to make in government and aerospace contractors...

Sounds like a peach of a place if you take that kind of abuse from a complete stranger without so much as a whimper.

I thought you could only do that kind of stuff in Russia.
EP11 is offline  
Old 08-30-2009, 06:58 PM
  #40  
Gets Weekends Off
 
hindsight2020's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Center seat, doing loops to music
Posts: 821
Default

Originally Posted by runge View Post
Heh, wow. That's quite a disparity of experiences.

How about people pursuing a civilian job outside of airlines? Anybody?

I would think intuitively that you'd be less desirable to the typical employer. All that ANG means to them is that you're going to be away from work a lot. But what if you work in an Aerospace or Engineering field? I can see how in some ways it would be beneficial for an employee to have actual flight experience, but I'm sure the employer would rather not have that flight experience take place during time that the employee might otherwise be getting **** done....
I got two degrees in aerospace engineering. I was given no special consideration just because I was an operator while perusing the engineering jobs. This is mostly due to being entry-level. Lockmart will hire you, but you won't get the job just because you're a flyer. At the upper echelons however, one's affiliations on the operator world will be the very implicit prerequisite to get that level of a contractor job in the first place. At the engineering "levels" world though, you're just another number cruncher with skosh availability, Lockmart will expect you to serve your country outside the hours of 9-5.

As for academia, like I posted before, they said they were "very Reserve friendly" but when I inquired about being given availability to perform weekly duty at the unit while not teaching class or during student counseling hours I was flatly told "h#ll naw, we need you here 5 days a week". Turns out my "part-time" job pays me more than their full time job, so I told them they could keep their "mil friendly" gig. So that was that.

Good luck
hindsight2020 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Riddler
Military
959
08-04-2010 09:17 PM
SongMan
Military
10
08-18-2009 01:44 PM
HerkDriver
Military
56
06-19-2009 01:25 AM
Red Forman
Military
20
10-20-2008 10:10 AM
wingnutC-17
Military
97
09-26-2008 02:32 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices