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I'm not military, so forgive the ignorance. But what was the reason for the pilots being Christians In Action instead of pure Air Force on the surveillance platforms?
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 692040)
I'm not military, so forgive the ignorance. But what was the reason for the pilots being Christians In Action instead of pure Air Force on the surveillance platforms?
political (e.g Gary Powers) |
Originally Posted by navigatro
(Post 692049)
political (e.g Gary Powers)
Yeah, familiar with that, hence the question. LIke I said, sorry for the ignorance, but I'm slow today. But could it not be more complex to have a person that's part of an intelligence service (spy) get captured vs. a person that is just military? |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 692021)
Saw an SR that had beem flipped on its back with one main gear extended over at Kadena in the mid 70s, never heard what happened to the aircraft or crew.
USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by mmaviator
(Post 692005)
On a side note, what is the max mach and/or altitude a pilot could eject out of that plane. I watched the same show USMCFLYR.
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Originally Posted by hotshot
(Post 692112)
From what I've read the crew could apparently bailout at maximum speed at maximum altitude because the air pressure at that height is so low that it is the equivalent of a much lower speed at lower altitude. Any of that make sense? :D
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 692040)
I'm not military, so forgive the ignorance. But what was the reason for the pilots being Christians In Action instead of pure Air Force on the surveillance platforms?
It didn't work for Gary Powers. Actually a military officer might be afforded protection under the geneva convention in some circumstances, while a civilian could be easily shot for spying. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 692133)
Political and Turf considerations. Theoretically, a "civilian" CIA pilot had more plausible deniability if captured. That might work for low-key clandestine work, but there obviously wasn't any deniability with something like the SR-71.
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 692133)
It didn't work for Gary Powers. Actually a military officer might be afforded protection under the geneva convention in some circumstances, while a civilian could be easily shot for spying.
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We still split ops. There are greater concerns than deniability, they were not so ignorant back then that they thought a guy bailing out of an SR-71 could pass himself off as a lost businessman - the concern was actually cold war vs hot war. Having CIA officers conduct ops was expected in the surveillance/counter-surveillance game, the only repercussions for those ops being exposed were nasty letters and embassy staffers being expelled. Conducting military ops over a sovereign nation could be considered an act of war.
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Originally Posted by LivingInMEM
(Post 692169)
We still split ops. There are greater concerns than deniability, they were not so ignorant back then that they thought a guy bailing out of an SR-71 could pass himself off as a lost businessman - the concern was actually cold war vs hot war. Having CIA officers conduct ops was expected in the surveillance/counter-surveillance game, the only repercussions for those ops being exposed were nasty letters and embassy staffers being expelled. Conducting military ops over a sovereign nation could be considered an act of war.
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