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cargo hopeful 04-09-2010 12:30 PM

US loses first Osprey
 
US loses first Osprey in Afghanistan, 4 dead - Yahoo! News

USMCFLYR 04-09-2010 12:57 PM

Very sad to hear about this loss of the Airmen and the contractor.

USMCFLYR

Deuce130 04-09-2010 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 792790)
Very sad to hear about this loss of the Airmen and the contractor.

USMCFLYR

Still can't tell if it's the Airman or the passengers who were killed. Either way, bad news. Godspeed.

rickair7777 04-09-2010 06:42 PM

RIP

I hope the corps doesn't try to put the spin on this.

USMCFLYR 04-09-2010 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Deuce130 (Post 793040)
Still can't tell if it's the Airman or the passengers who were killed. Either way, bad news. Godspeed.

True - I took the 3 service memebers as being USAF, but I'm sure they could have been from any service.

Rickair7777 - Did you mean the Corps? What spin would that be?

USMCFLYR

rickair7777 04-09-2010 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 793068)
True - I took the 3 service memebers as being USAF, but I'm sure they could have been from any service.

Rickair7777 - Did you mean the Corps? What spin would that be?

USMCFLYR

Yes the Corps, my grammar and spelling is good but the shift key on my laptop is a little unreliable.

Due to the controversy over the osprey program, I am slightly concerned that the powers-that-be may try to spin this to avoid casting any bad light on the airframe itself. Hopefully they will just be up front about whatever went down...stuff happens in the real world and in the long run honesty will be the best policy.

Hopefully it doesn't end up with worse safety statistics than other RW platforms.

Professional Red Air...so you took the job?


EDIT: It was a USAF bird, not USMC as I assumed. Actually thinking about it I don't believe USMC has any in the A-stan.

cargo hopeful 04-09-2010 07:39 PM

The Osprey program reminds me of the harrier program. Does anyone know if the osprey had (has) a worse reputation than the harrier? I remember a while back watching a harrier documentary and the narrator said it was often called the “widow maker, a difficult, even dangerous plane to fly.”

rickair7777 04-09-2010 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by cargo hopeful (Post 793084)
The Osprey program reminds me of the harrier program. Does anyone know if the osprey had (has) a worse reputation than the harrier? I remember a while back watching a harrier documentary and the narrator said it was often called the “widow maker, a difficult, even dangerous plane to fly.”

I think both have a rep due to the whole powered-lift thing. PL is non-tolerant of mechanical failures, and by it's nature tends to be unforgiving of out-of-envelope pilot error. More so than RW or FW, IMO

LOBO 04-09-2010 09:08 PM

I fly into AMA alot doing student training; and I get to see the Osprey fly, hover and somewhat be graceful. But, it still turns my stomach to watch it fly after losing a friend of mine and 18 others in an Osprey crash in Arizona almost a decade ago.


My Brothers RIP

USMCFLYR 04-09-2010 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 793075)
Yes the Corps, my grammar and spelling is good but the shift key on my laptop is a little unreliable.

I figured it was something like that. I know you wouldn't be so crass on purpose ;)


Due to the controversy over the osprey program, I am slightly concerned that the powers-that-be may try to spin this to avoid casting any bad light on the airframe itself. Hopefully they will just be up front about whatever went down...stuff happens in the real world and in the long run honesty will be the best policy.
Yes - the Osprey had many detractors in its' long and less than illustrious history before it ever made it to the fleet. I see that in your edit that you realized it was a USAF bird - thus my initial confusion why you were talking about the Corps' spin on this mishap.


Hopefully it doesn't end up with worse safety statistics than other RW platforms.
Rw or FW :confused: Just like the pipeline - they will have to figure something new out for this community. Maybe it will matter what phase of flight they were at the time of mishap


Professional Red Air...so you took the job?
Yes - for now. Still waiting on a training date. Just like that other thread states - currency is very important right?!



EDIT: It was a USAF bird, not USMC as I assumed. Actually thinking about it I don't believe USMC has any in the A-stan.
I don't think so either.

USMCFLYR


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