Raid on the Reactor
 

I'm watching a Military Channel show on the Israeli's raid on the nuclear reactor in Iraq.

The show mentions that the F-16s were carrying two external fuel tanks for the inbound portion of the mission. The show states (quote from former Israeli F-16 pilot), that they jettisoned the external fuel tanks in the Saudi desert. He mentions that this was the first time that this was ever done and believes that when carrying stores, that jettisoning the externals is still not allowed on today's F-16s.

Can any present/past F-16 pilots confirm this? Are there restrictions on jettisoning externals while carrying ordnance? I'm assuming emergency jettison is a whole different animal.

USMCFLYR

Edit: Of course just now they called Hot Refueling and very dangerous maneuver :eek: - so take this information with a grain of salt!

I've emer jetted tanks before, no bombs on board. I know of no restrictions though.

Is punching the tanks approaching a merge SOP? I know for the Hornet we only brief to it as a consideration if certain criteria are met, however the things are retarded expensive. Not like the combat tanks the Eagles guys can toss on a whim

I'd like to see that show...I'd better hurry though, the sequel should be coming out soon!

:D


Don't know the answer, but they were at the limits of their combat radius and every little bit helped in the drag department. Multiple sources agree that the tanks were jettisoned.
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Operational planning
The distance between Israeli military bases and the reactor site was significant—over 1600 km (1000 miles), which meant the military forces would be operating without easy resupply capability, and would have to arc across Jordanian and Saudi territory. Additionally, Israeli intelligence could not guarantee accurate intelligence on the state of Iraqi defences.

After much deliberation, the Israeli military finally concluded that a squadron of heavily fueled, and heavily armed F-16As, with a group of F-15As to provide air cover and fighter support, could perform a surgical strike to eliminate the reactor site, without having to refuel.

Israeli military also decided that it was essential to destroy the reactor before it was loaded with nuclear fuel, in order to minimize the effects of the reactor's destruction on the civilian population. Many European scientists were working on the reactor, and Israel decided to strike on Sunday, when most scientists would not be at work.

Having intelligence that the reactor's fuel rods were scheduled to be shipped to Iraq from France, the Israeli cabinet—then under the leadership of Menachem Begin—authorized the operation.

[edit] The attack

Israeli Air Force F-16A Netz 243, aircraft flown by Colonel Ilan Ramon in Operation Opera.
Nose of the F-16A flown by Ilan Ramon in Operation Opera, showing the triangular emblem of the attack.Operation Opera was carefully planned for a Sunday to minimize the loss of lives of any foreign workers and the attack was timed for the late afternoon to provide the Israeli Combat Search and Rescue Team (CSAR) all night to search for any downed Israeli pilots.

An Israeli Air Force flight of 8 F-16As—aircraft 107, 113, 118, 129, from 117 Squadron and 239, 240, 243 and 249 from 110 Squadron, each with two unguided Mark-84 2,000-pound delay-action bombs, and external fuel tanks—was set up. A squadron of 6 F-15As was also assigned to the operation to provide fighter support for the F-16As. Ilan Ramon, an F-16A pilot who would become Israel's first astronaut and died in the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster in 2003, during the time of the attack he was the youngest of the participants. He was two weeks away from his 27th birthday.

On 7 June 1981 at 15:55 local time (12:55 GMT) the plan was set in motion. The task force left Etzion Airbase, flying unchallenged at 800 feet in Jordanian and Saudi airspace.[8]

At 1,000 km into their flight, the operation was complicated by the F-16As' external fuel tanks. The planes were so heavily loaded that the external tanks (two underwing 1,400 l and one belly 1,100 l) were exhausted while the task force was still en route to the Osirak facility. These tanks were jettisoned over the Saudi desert before reaching the target.

Upon reaching Iraqi airspace the squadron split up, with two of the F-15s forming close escort to the F-16 squadron, and the remaining F-15s dispersing into Iraqi airspace as a diversion and ready back-up. The attack squadron descended to 30 m over the Iraqi desert, attempting to fly under the radar of the Iraqi defences.

At 18:35 local time (14:35 GMT), 20 km from the Osirak reactor complex, the F-16 formation climbed to 2,100 m and went into a 35-degree dive at 1,100 km/h, aimed at the reactor complex. At 1,100 m, the F-16s began releasing the Mark 84 bombs in pairs, at 5-second intervals. According to the Israeli reports, all sixteen weapons struck the reactor complex, although two reportedly did not detonate. As the anti-aircraft defenses opened fire the squadron climbed to an altitude of 12,200 m and started their return to Israel.

According to Israeli reports the Iraqi defenses were caught off guard and were slow to react. Whatever the reason, the anti-aircraft defenses of the facility did not damage any of the attacking aircraft. Despite the fears of encountering Iraqi interceptors, the squadron remained unchallenged and returned to Israeli airspace.
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Got this answer from a F-16 that I know at KSEE.
The answer to his last question was YES.
The show (or interviews with the actual pilots in the raid) stated they flew between 50' and 200' - and even overflew the King of Jordan's personal yachet and that he alerted Saddam!

Jungle - I really wasn't questioning whether they dropped the tanks or not - but whether there was a restriction against such a dropping of the tanks with A/G stores loaded. Do you agree that hot-pitting is a dangerous maneuver? :cool: Imagine how much time I should have been getting extra dangerous duty pay :D

USMCFLYR

It is all dangerous. You are always low on fuel, on fire and sitting on a rocket motor!
Restriction or not-they did it. I suspect they knew they could through General Dynamics or the US Airforce, or perhaps their own testing. I doubt it was a chance play on their part.

So true :D I love it!

I doubt it too - but that is what the show was stating. Could have been just the way they stated it on the show.

USMCFLYR

There's a book called "Raid on the Sun" by Rodger W. Claire that talks about that. Some of the writing in it will make you chuckle due to some of the technical inaccuracies about airplanes in general, but overall the book is pretty good.

It not only talks about the mission itself, but the pilots that were selected to fly the first Israeli F-16's as well as the huge amount of intel gathered by the Mossad that played a key role in the success of the mission. Sad that one of the guys that flew the mission was killed in the Columbia accident.

It was a few years ago that I read it, but if I remember correctly, from the time the Israeli pilots started training on the F-16 they KNEW that some of the things they were going to be doing on that mission didn't exactly conform to the way the U.S. trained them to operate it.

I'll bet the next raid is flown by small pilotless aircraft with a bucket of sunshine in the nose.

The program actually had a bit on this factor - some real movie stuff going on. :eek:
Come to find out - he was the youngest pilot on the mission - 24 years old!

USMCFLYR

Yeah, just from that book as well as some other stuff I've read I was always surprised at how young Israeli military aviators are when they're selected and start training.

Isn't the acceptance rate around 1-2 out of 100 or something like that?

May have been the first time planned but is not prohibited by the flight manual. Dropped on that facility twice in the opening week of Gulf War 1. They beefed up the defenses a bit since that Israeli attack.

USMC you remember the name of the show? Wanna see if I can find it an tivo it.

they start in their late teens in the IAF,just like the RAF,and our air forces in WW2.

Military Channel Showcase: Raid On The Reactor -- June 7, 1981
Military Channel ^ | June 29, 2006 | Military Channel
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 5:03:26 PM by wannabegeek
For the first time ever, the Israeli government is releasing top secret documents detailing the secret plans, strategies and implementation of their heralded raid on the Iraqi nuclear facility in 1981, one of the most daring and successful military strikes ever. Faced with a nuclear threat from Saddam Hussein's Iraq, Israel resolved to eliminate a French-built, Baghdad-based reactor producing weapons-grade plutonium. Risking certain international condemnation and the loss of aid from the United States, the IDF utilized their eight newly delivered F-16 fighter jets to bomb the reactor in the heart of Baghdad. The story of the planning of the raid is just as gripping as the raid itself and includes tales of international spies, targeted assassinations, blackmail and prostitution – everything one would expect in a fictional spy novel, only this story is true.

Watch it online at Raid on the Reactor
44 min. 18 sec. TRT.

As you say, Emer Jett provides no sequencing, everything falls off the jet at once. If you're punching off enough stuff, good chance some of it will collide underneath you but hopefully not make contact with the jet.

Sel Jett is ok (of course maybe the Israelis did their own Seek Eagle and wrote their own -1-2 to prove it could be done).

Tried searching for key words "Raid, Reactor, Raid on, etc." No soup for me...

You win this round Dish Network.

And they still start out in Super Cubs......

IAF: Training in the IAF

Pretty sure both the Super Cubs and Fouga trainers are gone. Pipers maybe replaced by these (or the T-6 II):

File:Grobg120a.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

says here the Fougas are still around but I'd be surprised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._wing_trainers

Struck out on DirecTV as well - it's available online if you have the time and bandwidth.

Watch it online at Raid on the Reactor

And it works on NMCI, uh oh....

Pretty sure there is another book on the subject called “Bulls Eye, One Reactor”

Does anyone else find in interesting that Ilian Ramon was a “Payload” Specialist and that the payload was a camera to look for “desert dust”? Hope the images were transmitted back to ground prior to the accident. Wonder how much of that dust was in Iran?

If we see part II any idea if Jordan or Turkey will allow transit, or will they try to block it to save face?

Loud public condemnation for sure.

But their air defenses might just coincidentally happen to be "down for maintenance" at the appointed hour.

Does the USAF fly any of the F-16s with conformals? I know some countries, including Israel, do. And from what I read it doubles the range of the F-16, rght? But no inflight separation for the CFT.

ANswer: Conformal Fuel Tanks for F-16 AND

Extending the F-16 range and

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...16i/F-16I.html

NOT the answer. I know about the CFTs but the QUESTION was are they used by the USAF . I know the F-15 uses CFTs but the -16?

Answer is: Nope

... as expected. I didn't remember ever seeing a USAF with the shoulder pads. Pretty amazing design to add that much fuel and so little additional drag.

I guess though if you just wanted a big wing with no CFTs this would have been the one.

http://oea.larc.nasa.gov/PAIS/Partne...F_16/fig07.jpg

It's actually a lot of drag. It also limits the jet to 7.5 G's.

Sources say less than drop tanks but obviously it limits the airplane to a bomb truck. And if that is the mission, makes sense for long range missions where tankers are either not available or airspace is not permissive.

It actually doesn't limit the mission.... Nothing says you need 9g's to chuck rammers bvr. Hornet is only a 7.5g platform.