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thegoblin 11-17-2010 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Deuce130 (Post 902990)
Who said it was a solo mission? Night sortie in Alaska...throw in mountains, snow on the ground, weather, NVGs, lots of tasks, anything could happen. Flight lead could be 20 miles away before he even knew anyone was missing.

I initially assumed it was a solo mission because of the unknown whereabouts and special equipment the -22 utilizes. I understand the -22 has an intra-flight data link allowing other 22s to share information regarding fuel, weapon status, gps position etc. Someone with more knowledge of this system might be able to enlighten us more. However, this being a night sortie, and these aircraft likely utilizing IFDL under the conditions you noted, I'm curious as to how exactly this aircraft seemingly vanishes. Like you said, anything could of happened. I hate drawing to conclusions with literally no facts, but is it safe to say there is a slight reason to believe this aircraft may of experienced a catastrophic systems failure?

It will be awhile before the facts are out, but it probably seems like an eternity for the pilot waiting to be rescued. I hope he's found a way to stay warm.

WAFP 11-17-2010 09:07 PM

Hopes and prayers go out to the pilot and family. Stay warm buddy

rickair7777 11-18-2010 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 902998)
The initial news release was completely vague and made it sound as though no one realized the plane was missing till it "failed to report in" to command post. It was reasonable to assume from the release that the pilot was single ship.

The article says it was two-ship, and of course they noticed when he failed to rejoin.

Shaggy1970 11-18-2010 06:24 AM

The Elmendorf team has had a hard year, thoughts and prayers to the family.

zondaracer 11-18-2010 06:29 AM

Air Force Times has some more info. AKANG (176th Rescue Wing) located the wreckage, but no boots on the ground at the scene. still looking for the pilot.

Search for F-22 pilot continues - Air Force News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Air Force Times

HuggyU2 11-18-2010 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by thegoblin (Post 903016)
I hate drawing to conclusions with literally no facts, but is it safe to say there is a slight reason to believe this aircraft may of experienced a catastrophic systems failure?

No, it is not safe to say.
Night, single seat, single ship, over unlit terrain creates numerous possibilitie.

Ftrooppilot 11-19-2010 08:01 AM

Winter Survival
 
Hopefully the pilot is curled up in his sleeping bag waiting for rescue.

In the early 1960s a Westover AFB B-52 encountered extreme turbulence while flying a night low level (500') mission in Maine. The vertical tail separated from the aircraft. The Aircraft Commander (AC) ordered bail out.

Downward seats (Nav and Radar) had no chance. The gunner in the tail had no chance. The Copilot sucessfully ejected with a good chute but got hung in a tree unconcious and froze to death. The AC and Electronics Warfare Officer (EWO) ejected as the aircraft was entering the trees.

The AC's chute was blown open by the aircraft impact explosion and he drifted over a hill to a landing. His leg was broken because of ejecting with full rudder deflection. He crawled in his survival kit sleeping bag and awaited rescue.

THE EWO found himself sitting in a snowbank NEAR HIS EJECTION SEAT. His chute never opened. THe seat became a combination sled/snow plow and carved a path down an incline through the trees before he separated from it. He suffer injuries including frostbite.

I was at 99th Bomb Wing party when word came that we had lost an aircraft. A more detailed (and probably correct) version of the accident can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_El...ain_B-52_crash

Sometimes the worse crashes are survivable.

11Fan 11-19-2010 12:22 PM

Base Home Page, just to stay current.

Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson - Home

Pilot named. It's on the site.

Grumble 11-19-2010 04:16 PM

I really pray that he's out making another brew of pine needle tea, building snow men, and trying to stay warm.

HuggyU2 11-19-2010 06:00 PM

A sad ending:
Air Force says pilot died in F-22 crash: Military | adn.com


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