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Old 01-31-2011, 02:14 PM
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Well, I think I unbelievably have good news today. I called ARPC first thing and said, "i'd like to resign my commission on the IRR. I need it to happen now, right now and please pass along the word to the Promotions section, ASAP. They are planning to pass me over today and that can't happen or I can't join a guard unit." From there, the woman on the phone had me fax in a form and made the whole thing happen. I know for a fact there was some confusion surrounding my Reserve Termination Date....but she never said a word...she just processed the whole thing.

I spoke directly with the Promotions section and they claim they received the Discharge Order (which I have too) and deleted my file from the board. Now I'm just waiting for some sort of written confirmation that I won't face the board just to have in case this ever comes back to me. Outside of that, it appears as if I may have dodged a massive, nasty, ridiculous bullet.

I did have to resign my commission...but sounds like now I will just need to be reappointed once a unit hires me. Anybody know how difficult that is?

Thanks to all for the comments.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tatin12 View Post
Well, I think I unbelievably have good news today. I called ARPC first thing and said, "i'd like to resign my commission on the IRR. I need it to happen now, right now and please pass along the word to the Promotions section, ASAP. They are planning to pass me over today and that can't happen or I can't join a guard unit." From there, the woman on the phone had me fax in a form and made the whole thing happen. I know for a fact there was some confusion surrounding my Reserve Termination Date....but she never said a word...she just processed the whole thing.

I spoke directly with the Promotions section and they claim they received the Discharge Order (which I have too) and deleted my file from the board. Now I'm just waiting for some sort of written confirmation that I won't face the board just to have in case this ever comes back to me. Outside of that, it appears as if I may have dodged a massive, nasty, ridiculous bullet.

I did have to resign my commission...but sounds like now I will just need to be reappointed once a unit hires me. Anybody know how difficult that is?

Thanks to all for the comments.
Wow. Didn't think something could go down that fast in the DoD. Congrats.

The navy can re-appoint people at their previous rank with no difficulty if they have a need for their skillset, I suspect the AF/AG can too.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:49 AM
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WOW! That is good news. I would never have believed it possible to get that done same day much less in a couple of months. Must have been some advantage to the AF somewhere along the line or you found one of those seemingly rare occasions where a sharp airman/officer saw a chance to "do the right thing" and made it happen despite the usual time line. Good to hear it worked out! Gratz.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:59 AM
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Well, I think I unbelievably have good news today. I called ARPC first thing and said, "i'd like to resign my commission on the IRR. I need it to happen now, right now and please pass along the word to the Promotions section, ASAP. They are planning to pass me over today and that can't happen or I can't join a guard unit." From there, the woman on the phone had me fax in a form and made the whole thing happen. I know for a fact there was some confusion surrounding my Reserve Termination Date....but she never said a word...she just processed the whole thing.

I spoke directly with the Promotions section and they claim they received the Discharge Order (which I have too) and deleted my file from the board. Now I'm just waiting for some sort of written confirmation that I won't face the board just to have in case this ever comes back to me. Outside of that, it appears as if I may have dodged a massive, nasty, ridiculous bullet.

I did have to resign my commission...but sounds like now I will just need to be reappointed once a unit hires me. Anybody know how difficult that is?

Thanks to all for the comments.
I hope it all works out for you. I will tell you that I separated from active duty and waited to get into the reserves. I knew I was going to go, I waited for the perfect job to open up. My recruited begged with me to go to a place holder job until then. I said no and full up separated. HUGE mistake!

Getting back into the reserves was the single most painful experience in my military history. I had to do everything all over again especially all of the physicals even though my "active duty" medical records were sitting on the shelf 10 feet away. And they held me to the same requirements that I had when I was in college.

Whatever you do, start working on getting back in right now. Do not wait. It took some of my friends one full year to get back in. I had to do the process twice ... yes, I did not mistype. TWICE !!! All because someone on active duty coded my DD214 incorrectly. I was in my reserve unit for a couple of months, drilling etc., and then the bad news came that I was never officially gained into the USAFR. So we had to do ALL of the paperwork and medicals all over again.

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Old 02-03-2011, 08:42 PM
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the way my Reserve Recruiter explained it to me was less than a year was easy, more than a year after separation, full commisioning package, including physical etc. Mine was less than a year, about 4 months from AD sep to starting the AFRES reappointment process(which took 2-3 months). Although my DD214 does not say resigned commission, it says completion of service, that may make a difference. Bottom line is that the year point seems to be the bringer of the pain.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:53 AM
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Another thing they don't tell you is that if you come back to the military (at least active duty) after a break in service, you have to wait a year before you're eligible for promotion. I took the VSP in 2007 right before my major's board and was in the IRR for almost three years before I came back to active duty with the Limited Period Rated Recall. I got passed over once in the IRR for the reasons stated by the OP earlier and even though I'm active duty I can only get promoted on the Reserve list according to the recall contract. The Reserve major's promotion board is approximately 1 Feb and I came back to active duty on 15 Feb, so now I have to wait another year to meet a promo board (I'm ineligible for the one that just happened) just because I came back to active duty 2 weeks late. These are the things no one tells you when you get out...
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:26 AM
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Another thing they don't tell you is that if you come back to the military (at least active duty) after a break in service, you have to wait a year before you're eligible for promotion. I took the VSP in 2007 right before my major's board and was in the IRR for almost three years before I came back to active duty with the Limited Period Rated Recall. I got passed over once in the IRR for the reasons stated by the OP earlier and even though I'm active duty I can only get promoted on the Reserve list according to the recall contract. The Reserve major's promotion board is approximately 1 Feb and I came back to active duty on 15 Feb, so now I have to wait another year to meet a promo board (I'm ineligible for the one that just happened) just because I came back to active duty 2 weeks late. These are the things no one tells you when you get out...
Actually that might be to your benefit. The Navy started doing exactly what you are describing a couple of years ago because they were bringing people (non-pilots) back into the reserves who had left AD at 5 and then expired out of the IRR at 8. They were right at their first look point, but their years in the IRR after active duty did not make them competitive so they were getting a signing bonus, getting passed over twice, then back on the street in two years. This was a critical skill set...

The extra year was intended to give them time to get their feet on the ground and build a little recent performance history.
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Tatin12:

Two of my friends were scheduled to pin on Major (already met the board and were promoted) at time of separation. After *a lot* of phone calls down to USAFR HQ, we were able to get USAFR to honor their previous board results.
I left active duty in the fall of 07' under the VSP program and as a major select scheduled to pin on in the spring. I sent all my promotion information (selection letter, line number from AFPC, etc) to the USAFR personnel people and they sent me a letter back saying that they would honor my AD promotion. I had to wait another year to pin on the rank due to promotion timelines being different in the reserves, but they still honored my AD promotion. I worked my entire inter-service transfer in the meantime, finally pinned on major in the IRR, and swore in as a lieutenant commander in the USNR the next day. It did, however, take the patience of Job .....
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Well, I think I unbelievably have good news today. I called ARPC first thing and said, "i'd like to resign my commission on the IRR. I need it to happen now, right now and please pass along the word to the Promotions section, ASAP. They are planning to pass me over today and that can't happen or I can't join a guard unit." From there, the woman on the phone had me fax in a form and made the whole thing happen. I know for a fact there was some confusion surrounding my Reserve Termination Date....but she never said a word...she just processed the whole thing.

I spoke directly with the Promotions section and they claim they received the Discharge Order (which I have too) and deleted my file from the board. Now I'm just waiting for some sort of written confirmation that I won't face the board just to have in case this ever comes back to me. Outside of that, it appears as if I may have dodged a massive, nasty, ridiculous bullet.

I did have to resign my commission...but sounds like now I will just need to be reappointed once a unit hires me. Anybody know how difficult that is?

Thanks to all for the comments.
I know this thread is old but I was wondering if tatin12 is still around, what number did you call? I'm in a similar situation and want to resign my commission in the IRR as well. The number I get on google is disconnected. Any help would be much appreciated!
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:45 PM
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From AFI 36-2501 Officer Promotions and Selective Continuation:


2.10. Writing Letters to a Board.
2.10.1. Officers eligible for promotion may write a letter to the board. Eligible officers:
2.10.1.1. Submit the letter in good faith, and ensure it contains accurate information to the best of their knowledge.
2.10.1.2. Sign and date the letter.
2.10.1.3. Send the letter to HQ AFPC/DPPPO so it arrives no later than (NLT) 2359 (Central
Standard Time) the day prior to the board convening date. Letters arriving after 2359 the day prior to the board will not be presented to the board for consideration.
2.10.1.4. If the letter writer requests return of the letter, he/she must provide a stamped,
self-addressed envelope.
2.10.2. HQ AFPC/DPPPO advises officers when letters do not meet the above requirements and either returns or destroys the letter.
2.10.2.1. Letters on behalf of other officers are not permitted, although individuals may provide
relevant attachments to their own letters. Any attachments addressed directly to the board will
cause the entire letter to be returned to the eligible officer.
2.10.2.2. Attachments or documents that can become a permanent part of the officer's record; e.g., draft/proposed/final PRFs considered by previous selection boards, unsigned draft/proposed officer performance reports or decoration narratives are not permitted.
2.10.2.3. Letters with attachments will not exceed 10 pages: 5 two-sided pages or 10 one-sided
pages. Letters exceeding 10 pages will be returned to the officers.

Try and get a "tentative hire letter" from the Guard unit that is interested in picking you up. If you can get that, write a letter to the board explaining the cirumstances you face if they pass you over before the Guard is able to gain you officially. Then, and probably most difficult, find a way to get it to AFPC/DPPPO by 2359 tonight. Worst case I would try and fax a copy to any office in AFPC that I could get a number for and follow up with the original as fast as possible. Maybe RND command post would do you a favor and run the fax over to AFPC and slide it under DPPPO's door?
Kinda bad poop. AFPC has nothing to do with this. ARPC runs this board out of Lowrey last I heard. Randolph is completely out of the picture once you're in the IRR. I met, and was promoted in the IRR in 03, so it's not impossible. However it's a moot point now that the board has already met.
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