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Old 05-08-2011, 02:37 PM
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Just wondering if there is any info out there on how the Defense budget will effect things like UPT slots...etc.

Have things slowed down for stuff like OTS/UPT class dates?

I'm aware that the Air Force is supposedly doing away with 2000+ officers.
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Old 05-08-2011, 05:47 PM
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And they are projecting being short a 1,000 fighter pilots in the coming years! Understand that not all of these positions are cockpits...but guys will have to be pulled from the cockpit to fill these jobs.
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There are no plans to slow pilot production. I attended the rated manning conference at HQ AF a couple weeks ago, and it is an ongoing issue that we just can't produce enough pilots. UPT is going all out, and we can't afford to slow them down.
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Is it true that OTS has dried up on the AD side leaving classes with mostly guard/reserve?
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo View Post
There are no plans to slow pilot production. I attended the rated manning conference at HQ AF a couple weeks ago, and it is an ongoing issue that we just can't produce enough pilots. UPT is going all out, and we can't afford to slow them down.
well thats good news, i've actually been hired to fly kc-135s, was not picked up by the last board despite having decent scores. For the first time (to my knowledge) there was a limit of how many slots the board was allowed to approve (40). Apparently the move from the A1 to the A3 shop has caused some problems on the board and I'm just wondering if that was a one time hiccup or a beginning of a new trend.

Before that Nov '10 board I was told by everyone that it was just a rubber stamp, and now it seems they have become the final authority.
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg View Post
And they are projecting being short a 1,000 fighter pilots in the coming years! Understand that not all of these positions are cockpits...but guys will have to be pulled from the cockpit to fill these jobs.
Well I think they are going to be short about 1,000 fighters too, so it should all work out.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:14 PM
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I see absolutely no slowing of the pipeline. We're undermanned everywhere and the Air Force in it's infinite wisdom feels it's better to stick a bunch of inexperienced guys in to fill those cockpits while they have senior Capt's and Maj's who know the jet like the back of their hand and those are the guys that will be losing their jobs, but in the end will score in on this airline hiring boom.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:51 PM
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We are at the highest rate I have seen in 12 years. While total fighter airframes has decreased, losses due to guys separating or retiring are apparently increasing (the end of the 'banked' guys from the early 90s). There are still lots of other airframes requiring bodies.

They are desperately trying to fill this shortfall, partially in advance.

The numbers of guys getting Preds/RPAs is expected to decrease to very low numbers in the next few months, as there is a separate training track/rating for RPA drivers now. (Not sure what kind of wings they wear, or if they get to be called pilots).
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:23 PM
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anyone have knowledge of how this may apply to the AFRC upt boards?
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From my experience, probably to much correlation between AD and the Reserve components slots. The ARC is more steady in throughput, without the ups and downs of AD. I could contact a friend who is the DOTat 22AF.

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