Post 9/11 GI bill for flight training?
01-25-2012, 07:01 PM
#71
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Well, I asked the VA again on their help website. I cited the reference numbers from our previous conversations where they stated we would be charged one month. Here was their response.
Dear Mr. FlyBoyd:
Here is the way that we will calculate months charged on Post 9/11 G.I. Bill, pertaining to flight training: If you are at 100% and we pay $10,000 for your flight training, regardless of how long the training lasts, we will charge you 1 year of your benefit. So if your charges for the year are $7,300, this is almost 75% of the $10,000 cap, so you will be charges almost 75% of a year (which would come out to be between 8 and 9 months on your benefit).
Thank you for contacting the Department of Veterans Affairs.
kld/2574
Muskogee RPO
That sure is some fuzzy math if you compare using a percentage of the $10,000 flight training cap versus using the benefit to go to school. The E-5 BAH you get every month all but beats that alone much less tacking on the tuition at a state school as well.
Hmmmm...take one full school year of benefits away from my son for $7300...nope. One year of tuition at Texas plus the BAH benefit comes to approx $18K.
As I first thought...too good to be true and full of loop holes.
Look for some of my stuff on Craigslist. I have to come up with $7300.
Good luck guys.
Dear Mr. FlyBoyd:
Here is the way that we will calculate months charged on Post 9/11 G.I. Bill, pertaining to flight training: If you are at 100% and we pay $10,000 for your flight training, regardless of how long the training lasts, we will charge you 1 year of your benefit. So if your charges for the year are $7,300, this is almost 75% of the $10,000 cap, so you will be charges almost 75% of a year (which would come out to be between 8 and 9 months on your benefit).
Thank you for contacting the Department of Veterans Affairs.
kld/2574
Muskogee RPO
That sure is some fuzzy math if you compare using a percentage of the $10,000 flight training cap versus using the benefit to go to school. The E-5 BAH you get every month all but beats that alone much less tacking on the tuition at a state school as well.
Hmmmm...take one full school year of benefits away from my son for $7300...nope. One year of tuition at Texas plus the BAH benefit comes to approx $18K.
As I first thought...too good to be true and full of loop holes.
Look for some of my stuff on Craigslist. I have to come up with $7300.
Good luck guys.
01-25-2012, 10:02 PM
#72
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I am a little hesitant to use it as well. But in these days of cutbacks, especially with military benefits on the chopping block, I see this being one of the first benefits to go. So, I am going to use it while I have it.
01-26-2012, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DarinFred
I am a little hesitant to use it as well. But in these days of cutbacks, especially with military benefits on the chopping block, I see this being one of the first benefits to go. So, I am going to use it while I have it.
01-26-2012, 04:58 AM
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I called the VA help line and had the guy read all my previous internet conversations using the reference #s in my account. I have asked the same question twice. Once in June 2011 and once in January 2012. I received two different answers.
He said my lastest answer (posted above) is the correct one. As expected, he didn't have much to say when I pointed out that the June answer looked no less official than the January answer above. He was going to forward my case to the training department in the hopes they can post the example to the website but that is all that is going to happen.
FYI...if you have put in a claim, and it hasn't been paid out yet, you can stop the process in order retain your eligibilty. Once the claim is paid, there is no going back.
Also, if you haven't already, look into your home states veteran's benefits. In some cases, they are very good. Here is Texas. Hazlewood | Texas Veterans Commission
As Darin stated above. It will probably be cut. If it isn't, I could use a combination of the Post 9-11 and the Hazlewood act later on to get my son a full ride.
Time will tell.
Take care...
He said my lastest answer (posted above) is the correct one. As expected, he didn't have much to say when I pointed out that the June answer looked no less official than the January answer above. He was going to forward my case to the training department in the hopes they can post the example to the website but that is all that is going to happen.
FYI...if you have put in a claim, and it hasn't been paid out yet, you can stop the process in order retain your eligibilty. Once the claim is paid, there is no going back.
Also, if you haven't already, look into your home states veteran's benefits. In some cases, they are very good. Here is Texas. Hazlewood | Texas Veterans Commission
As Darin stated above. It will probably be cut. If it isn't, I could use a combination of the Post 9-11 and the Hazlewood act later on to get my son a full ride.
Time will tell.
Take care...
01-31-2012, 06:02 AM
#76
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Originally Posted by HogDriver
Spoke with HP today. They recently (in the last week or so) had their first post 9/11 GI Bill student paid for (they've been doing classes with Post 9/11 since Nov). 10 months of eligibility used.
Slow process as would be expected with VA. Literally took more than 3 months to get my eligibility certificate, and that included a solid three weeks of phone calls asking about my staus. So, start early and check up often. If you call at EXACTLY 0700 CST you can actually talk to someone. Good luck!
Slow process as would be expected with VA. Literally took more than 3 months to get my eligibility certificate, and that included a solid three weeks of phone calls asking about my staus. So, start early and check up often. If you call at EXACTLY 0700 CST you can actually talk to someone. Good luck!
I won't use it for the type rating. Daughter in college now and 10 months of eligibility is worth much more than $8500.
01-31-2012, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Warthawg
I won't use it for the type rating. Daughter in college now and 10 months of eligibility is worth much more than $8500.
01-31-2012, 01:50 PM
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Wow, the Post 9/11 GI Bill then only pays out $833.33 per month for flight training ($10,000 yearly limit / 12 months). Total possible payout for non-collegiate flight training $30,000. Using this for full time degree and getting the BAH would definitely pay out more.
The MGIB pays out $1476 per month for flight training. Downside is paying for 40% of the training. Total possible payout for flight training is $53,136 (but you would have to pay $35,424 to realize this full benefit if you only spent it on flight training).
The MGIB pays out $1476 per month for flight training. Downside is paying for 40% of the training. Total possible payout for flight training is $53,136 (but you would have to pay $35,424 to realize this full benefit if you only spent it on flight training).
02-03-2012, 04:59 PM
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Is there anyone from this post/forum currently utilizing the Post 9/11 GI Bill for flight training at an IHL? I've just been informed by the VA rep at ERU in Prescott that the bill will no longer pay for training at their establishment - for degree programs, only public institutions are eligible.
I've heard there are initial payment delays, overage costs, etc.
Any tips/tricks from current/former Post 9/11 GI Bill students?
I've heard there are initial payment delays, overage costs, etc.
Any tips/tricks from current/former Post 9/11 GI Bill students?
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