Originally Posted by LowSlowT2
(Post 1130683)
The C27 and C130 missions overlap. The C130 can't do at one end what the C27 can do and the C27 can't do at the other end what a C130 can do. There are missions for each...
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
That is also what most of us believe who have been intimately involved in the program. The political side of this disgusts me. OPSEC considerations prevent me from speaking in full, but suffice it to say that several warriors in my unit shed blood over this BS! We faced enormous risk by flying this aircraft in combat. Not without reason. Your efforts kept our (Tallil dustoff) airframes up and saved lives. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by dtfl
(Post 1142947)
Pretty much...BUT...they compared the C27 with the C-130J-30 not the shorty....which could pretty much perform the same. (Assault speeds are lower...plus some other differences...takes too long to explain here)
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Well I'll be......
Air Force, Coast Guard talk C-27J deal - Navy News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Navy Times
Air Force, Coast Guard talk C-27J deal By Marcus Weisgerber - Staff writer Posted : Sunday Mar 11, 2012 10:14:18 EDT Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Robert Papp told lawmakers last week that he has talked with Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz about the feasibility of transferring C-27Js to the sea service. The Coast Guard is conducting a business case analysis of transferring the cargo haulers. The Coast Guard flies C-130Js and EADS-produced CN-235s, which it calls the HC-144. The Coast Guard opted for the HC-144 over the C-27J because of lower life-cycle costs, Papp said at a House Appropriations homeland security subcommittee hearing. Still, hes not ruling out a mixed fleet of HC-144s and C-27Js. [S]ometimes things fall in your laps and if we can get basically free from the Air Force, we might be able to come up with the plan that would allow us a mix of the [CN-235s], a mix of the C-27s, and, oh by the way, that might put some extra money in our budget that we could devote to some of these other projects, Papp said March 6. Papp noted that the C-27J and C-130J use the same engines, which would help cut the logistical costs of operating two aircraft. |
I didn't believe it either until I saw the article. Knew you would like that one, Monty. Is it possible that common sense could win the day??
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Originally Posted by BugT56
(Post 1150760)
I didn't believe it either until I saw the article. Knew you would like that one, Monty. Is it possible that common sense could win the day??
I hope simulator time can be part of the deal. Not having a CASA sim has hurt the quality of our training. This news is definitely a step in the right direction. The C-27 might not be living up to expectations as a tactical airlifter at fields with high density altitude, but could do nicely out of coastal airports in the maritime patrol regime of flight. |
Originally Posted by propfails2FX
(Post 1150822)
We'll see Bug. How long did it take to missionize the J's? I know they were flying around as slick transports for years.
I hope simulator time can be part of the deal. Not having a CASA sim has hurt the quality of our training. This news is definitely a step in the right direction. The C-27 might not be living up to expectations as a tactical airlifter at fields with high density altitude, but could do nicely out of coastal airports in the maritime patrol regime of flight. |
C27J Update
Heard a recent update on this issue, it looks like it is progressing at light speed in comparison to how acquisitions usually go. Rumor is that the CG has submitted the proposal to the appropriate approval authorities. The Chief of Staff of the AF is onboard with the transfer. I have heard various numbers as far as airframes go, last rumor I heard was for 32 C27 airframes. Does anyone know the exact number of airframes that the Air Guard had, both actively flying and yet to be delivered? Also heard a rumor that the deal may include the C130J Hurricane Hunters from Keesler....Anyone out there heard anything on that?
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Do you have the CASA 235 simulator? And what are the cost for the initial course
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Bump.... I guess.
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