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SUPT Time examples?
Since the FedEx questionnaire is currently broken, I figured I'd spend some extra time trying to coax some details out of my UPT records. I went to UPT in class 94-05 when Reese was open, flight boots were black leather, and we rode to work on mastodons.
All I have is my total SUPT time of 398.7. My records are missing any of the previous information that might tell me how much time was spent in the T-37B and how much in the T-1A, how many sorties, etc. I've torn my office apart and can't find any of the summary data I know I walked away with. I'm wondering if someone who went through T-37/T-1--especially someone who went early when the T-1 program was long--can tell me their stats. That would give me a starting point to break down my time. If anyone can post their SUPT stats I'd appreciate it. |
How did I only get 211.8 going t-6/t-44s? Was the training that much longer back in "the day"
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Originally Posted by DoomedTX
(Post 1150970)
Since the FedEx questionnaire is currently broken, I figured I'd spend some extra time trying to coax some details out of my UPT records. I went to UPT in class 94-05 when Reese was open, flight boots were black leather, and we rode to work on mastodons.
All I have is my total SUPT time of 398.7. My records are missing any of the previous information that might tell me how much time was spent in the T-37B and how much in the T-1A, how many sorties, etc. I've torn my office apart and can't find any of the summary data I know I walked away with. I'm wondering if someone who went through T-37/T-1--especially someone who went early when the T-1 program was long--can tell me their stats. That would give me a starting point to break down my time. If anyone can post their SUPT stats I'd appreciate it. I think I cracked 200 by a handful of hours. Granted it was back before SUPT and we all flew the same two aircraft, but that seems like a lot of hours for UPT. Back to your question. If those hours are all student time, then just list them as student time and be done with it. Put it in your total time for sure but beyond that it's not worth much. None of it will count as PIC time with any airline using the "sign for the jet" yard stick. |
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 1151240)
Granted it was back before mastodons were even in spin test and we all flew the same two aircraft.
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 1151247)
Stearman & T-6 Texan I?
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Even after the introduction of the T-1A, the syllabus normally only resulted in about 200 hours, about 80-90 in the T-37 and 100+ in Phase III. Normally, you don't include Student Time on airline apps, unless they specifically ask for "Dual Received" time.
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[QUOTE]Even after the introduction of the T-1A, the syllabus normally only resulted in about 200 hours, about 80-90 in the T-37 and 100+ in Phase III. Normally, you don't include Student Time on airline apps, unless they specifically ask for "Dual Received" time.[/QUOTE
400 hours? I was on 86-03and we hog 85 hours in the Tweet and 105 hours in the T38. Seems like a lot to me. |
I am not sure how teasing it out helps with FedEx. Since they only care about Turbine PIC/SIC it is my understanding that you can only claim your solo time. Thoughts.......
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Yeah, my 198.4 of T37/T38 seemed to be the norm....I wasn't that far ahead of you in 93-04.
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400 hours is more than I got a couple years after you, but we had a requirement in Tones to log 75 hours of other time. In practice you'd do out and backs with a partner and IP. Each stud would like 2.0 primary and 2.0 other. Consequently we finished UPT with closer to 300 hours than the 200 the 38 guys got. But the extra was all worthless other time. 94-05 must have been one of the first Tone classes, probably still working stuff out if you hit that much time.
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I was in the fifth T-1 class, which was after the syllabus evaluation but before they implemented any changes. So, the IPs knew we had way too many flights but the rides had to stay the same. I remember we had something like 9 low level flights before the checkride, and by ride 5 or so we were begging to check early. I'm pretty sure the 400 hours is right because I've got printouts dating back that far.
I wound up submitting my FedEx app without it because as most mentioned they don't have a dual/student column on the app. The Delta app does, and I thought I'd like a better breakdown of my time. I'll stick with the estimate I have. Thanks for the answers. |
Class 96-05 @ Reese: T-1s only (Navy) 108.1 hours (79.4 First Pilot + 28.7 Copilot) and 69.9 Special Crew (= USN "other")
8 low level/AR rides (7 + check) in my logbook ~215 pilot hours when I got my wings |
Originally Posted by DoomedTX
(Post 1151874)
I was in the fifth T-1 class, which was after the syllabus evaluation but before they implemented any changes. So, the IPs knew we had way too many flights but the rides had to stay the same. I remember we had something like 9 low level flights before the checkride, and by ride 5 or so we were begging to check early. I'm pretty sure the 400 hours is right because I've got printouts dating back that far.
I wound up submitting my FedEx app without it because as most mentioned they don't have a dual/student column on the app. The Delta app does, and I thought I'd like a better breakdown of my time. I'll stick with the estimate I have. Thanks for the answers. |
Probably a lot of "other" time in that 400 hours.
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I was a T-1 IP, and remember there is a lot of jumpseat time in the T-1 that is Other time. I think that is why the total is so high, vs us older guys with 190-200hrs.
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and as far as a civilian career....that "other" time is WORTHLESS...... I mean if you want it in your personal logbook ...sure....but other than that it shouldn't appear anywhere on job apps, resume's.... etc..... the OP needs to figure out how much of that 400 was "other" time and discount it.
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