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laker7745 07-08-2014 06:58 AM

Military straight to mainline
 
Hey guys, I was just curious if military guys usually go through the process of going through the regionals or do they usually head straight to the National- Major companies?

rickair7777 07-08-2014 07:31 AM

Historically it was usually straight to the majors, but hiring is still ramping up and there is a "backlog" of eminently qualified applicants so many mil guys are not called right away.

In that case you need to stay current (and probably make money)....guard bum, bizav, special gov contract flying, or regionals are the typical options.

FredFlyer 07-08-2014 07:39 AM

Military straight to mainline
 
I'm a Reserve baby (i.e. was hired off the street into the Reserves, not prior active duty), and I built my hours by horing myself out to my squad ("troughing"), then flew a couple years with Atlas. I think having some 121 time on your resume helps & lets you check another box.

With that said, I've had numerous squad mates get hired with no 121 experience...one guy which was in the first Delta new hire class.

I wouldn't jump to the regionals or ACMI carriers until you've built some PIC time in your squad. Just my opinion.

ron kent 07-08-2014 08:20 AM

Historically, most military fixed winged aviators go straight to the majors. The military guys that I know who spent time at the regionals came from helo's and needed the multi engine fixed wing time.

ERJF15 07-08-2014 09:40 AM

Military straight to mainline
 
Former enlisted here. I had to cut my teeth w/a regional first, but got picked up by my parent company. From 7-lvl to 7 6 in 7 years!

John Carr 07-08-2014 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by ron kent (Post 1679733)
The military guys that I know who spent time at the regionals came from helo's and needed the multi engine fixed wing time.

It happened pre 9-11, just like it's happening now. There were/are guys separating that were ALL FW TIME that just simply weren't getting picked out of the stack right away. Now they're running into a currency issue and need to fly SOMETHING to get current again. I also saw it in the 2007 hiring, and am seeing it now.

And pre 9-11, just like now, the mil guys going to the regional aren't there for very long. And as the hiring picks up, that time will drop even more.

3006hunter 07-12-2014 04:23 AM

What is a competative amount of TT and PIC for a military guy?

1650 TT
1200 mil turbine
1050 turbine PIC
5 mil IP
140 civ CFI

Is this even close?

Packrat 07-12-2014 04:33 AM

I had 5200 hours of military flight time when I got hired.

Toonces 07-12-2014 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by 3006hunter (Post 1682348)
What is a competative amount of TT and PIC for a military guy?

1650 TT
1200 mil turbine
1050 turbine PIC
5 mil IP
140 civ CFI

Is this even close?


I think with those times it would depend on the type/quality of that time. You will probably get calls many places, but I think a legacy or major cargo carrier would pass you up. A thousand more hours at a 135 or 121 outfit and you would probably get a look.


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sailingfun 07-12-2014 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by 3006hunter (Post 1682348)
What is a competative amount of TT and PIC for a military guy?

1650 TT
1200 mil turbine
1050 turbine PIC
5 mil IP
140 civ CFI

Is this even close?

If it's fighter time without the correction factor you might get a call at Delta in the next year. Still would be good to pick up another 500 hours. How is the rest of your resume?


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