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Joachim 01-26-2007 06:44 PM

Can a foreign person serve in the US AF/NAVY?
 
Hi! Im 23 years old and working on my CFI - license. I was wondering if i would be able to become a military pilot. Im a Danish citizen and a resident alien. I love America and what it stands for. I would love to serve what i now consider my home Country. My biggest dream since childhood was to be a Navy fighter pilot in the US. It may be hard to understand, but that is the situation. Is there any chance for me to acheive this? or should i knock that idea out of my head?

Thank you!

Joachim Roselio

TankerBob 01-26-2007 07:27 PM

You have to become a US citizen first... From there well it would be a tough road and you gotta do it before hitting the age limit, which I dont know what it is in the Navy.

IronWalt 01-26-2007 07:35 PM

I thought they let legal immigrants with a green card serve in the military. Wouldnt it be smart for him to enlist and then apply for AOCS.

Joachim 01-26-2007 08:00 PM

I read the Navy's requirements and it sounded like resident aliens were ok, but the airforce requirements were citizens only...

Split S 01-26-2007 08:13 PM

While it is true that the Navy will allow resident aliens to serve and attain citizenship while serving, that is not a blanket statement for all Navy positions. Those jobs and positions that require the attainment of a security clearance for day to day operations (all officer positions, and most pilot positions require ability to receive TS clearance these days) will be scrutinized on a case by case basis. Certainly don't believe everything an Officer recruiter may tell you. It can be done, but I'm not sure what kind of hoops you may have to jump through. So you definitely want to have all your research complete. I'll try to remember to ask my Admin dept at work next week, as I currently am an instructor at the Navy's Primary Flight Training in P'cola. Although they will probably give me a big shrug of "I don't really know, Sir".

TankerBob 01-26-2007 08:22 PM

You have to be a US citizen to be a pilot...

Yeah if you enlisted first... it might show that you are really serious about become a citizen... I had a friend in college become a nav and he had to become a citizen first before he could go to UNT... for whats its worth..

rickair7777 01-26-2007 10:05 PM

Federal law....all US military officers MUST be citizens (naturalized OK).

Except for army helos, all US military flying jobs are reserved for commissioned officers (I saw an ALNAV indicating that the navy is experimenting with NCO pilots right now, but you would have to serve as an enlisted sailor before you could apply).

Many other jobs are limited to citizens due to security clearance requirements: special forces, submarines (philipine island natives allowed), anything having to do with special weapons, etc.

Like Split S said...don't trust the recruiters.

Scout 01-27-2007 02:52 PM

Warrant Officers and NCO's
 

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 108533)
Federal law....all US military officers MUST be citizens (naturalized OK).

Except for army helos, all US military flying jobs are reserved for commissioned officers (I saw an ALNAV indicating that the navy is experimenting with NCO pilots right now, but you would have to serve as an enlisted sailor before you could apply).

Army Info only! Not a jab at you Rickair but.......Warrant Officer Pilots in the Army are not NCO's, and are in fact Commissioned Warrant Officers. almost 90% of Helicopters are flown by Warrant Officers and the same for Fixed Wing Aircraft...currently the Army Fly's over 350 Fixed Wing aircraft. It all boils down to security clearance...actually I believe you can hold dual citizenship in the Army, but it may stop your from flying also. Times change....ask the Recruiter or go on line to goarmy.com and check out what you find. Then get a second (and third) opinion!

IronWalt 01-27-2007 07:25 PM

Recruiters BS you??? Nawww how could that beeee :-)

reCALcitrant 01-28-2007 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Scout (Post 108831)
Army Info only! Not a jab at you Rickair but.......Warrant Officer Pilots in the Army are not NCO's, and are in fact Commissioned Warrant Officers. almost 90% of Helicopters are flown by Warrant Officers and the same for Fixed Wing Aircraft...currently the Army Fly's over 350 Fixed Wing aircraft. It all boils down to security clearance...actually I believe you can hold dual citizenship in the Army, but it may stop your from flying also. Times change....ask the Recruiter or go on line to goarmy.com and check out what you find. Then get a second (and third) opinion!

Alright. Gotta call you on a technical foul. Here's the quote from defense link.

Warrant officers hold warrants from their service secretary and are specialists and experts in certain military technologies or capabilities. The lowest ranking warrant officers serve under a warrant, but they receive commissions from the president upon promotion to chief warrant officer 2. These commissioned warrant officers are direct representatives of the president of the United States. They derive their authority from the same source as commissioned officers but remain specialists, in contrast to commissioned officers, who are generalists. There are no warrant officers in the Air Force.

So indeed, there are non commisioned warrant officers. I know a technicality but still....:D


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