I think they should have paid Dos Gringos to tour. I would have gone to see them...
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Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 2033635)
I think they should have paid Dos Gringos to tour. I would have gone to see them...
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Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 2033635)
I think they should have paid Dos Gringos to tour. I would have gone to see them...
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Yeah, except it was dos gringos that got quoted in that lawsuit by the infamous tech sgt JS (that bitter msgt non-select using political correctness of the times to lash back at her pfa of career non promotion...she ought to be a beer word) that started the witch hunt of 2013. So fat chance you'll ever get operator friendly acts in a service whose cultural tone is dominated by career REMFs whose effective primary duty is professional umbrage for not having the perceived recognition of an operators job. This place jumped the shark a while ago.
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There are some real warriors in the Air Force, and some folks who are way out there on the point. Unlike most services, however, the officers do the majority of the fighting and dying in our service. We could not turn a wheel without the tremendous support machinery that is required to make it work, and I don't mean to belittle anyone's contribution....
But man....I remember how hard some people went to make themselves feels like warriors, and how they resented those that actually were. The officers who coddled them and encouraged that behavior were the worst. My own "as God is my witness I will quit Active Duty the first chance I get..." came after being placed in "assigned seating" on a bus to commercial air to a TDY in Frankfurt, and then again from Atlanta to Tyndall in a similar arrangement. A Mx major was the senior officer for the group, and spread the pilots across 4 different buses because "...he didn't want all of us together and making the others feel like we were special..." Since I was in the middle of the F-15 IPUG course I politely asked if I could at least ride with a WIC instructor friend of mine and use the hours on the road going over some academics...since working 12-14 hour days every day didn't give us a lot of extra time and now we had the luxury of quite a few hours to kill. The response was "no", which was also backed up by the DO, who was at the time a only a 2 ship flight lead. He didn't want to make anyone in mx feel he would override their boss. Please trust me when I say EVERY day I flew in the ANG after that, and every day I met my squadron after jumpseating out on my own airline, I savored every single moment. The stupidity and *****-ness factor went down 95%, but the flying, the great people, and the sense of mission remained. The fact I even give a crap TIB is a mort 8 years after I retired is probably a good glimpse into who much hate swirled around my inner core from those days. |
Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 2034233)
There are some real warriors in the Air Force, and some folks who are way out there on the point. Unlike most services, however, the officers do the majority of the fighting and dying in our service. We could not turn a wheel without the tremendous support machinery that is required to make it work, and I don't mean to belittle anyone's contribution....
But man....I remember how hard some people went to make themselves feels like warriors, and how they resented those that actually were. The officers who coddled them and encouraged that behavior were the worst. My own "as God is my witness I will quit Active Duty the first chance I get..." came after being placed in "assigned seating" on a bus to commercial air to a TDY in Frankfurt, and then again from Atlanta to Tyndall in a similar arrangement. A Mx major was the senior officer for the group, and spread the pilots across 4 different buses because "...he didn't want all of us together and making the others feel like we were special..." Since I was in the middle of the F-15 IPUG course I politely asked if I could at least ride with a WIC instructor friend of mine and use the hours on the road going over some academics...since working 12-14 hour days every day didn't give us a lot of extra time and now we had the luxury of quite a few hours to kill. The response was "no", which was also backed up by the DO, who was at the time a only a 2 ship flight lead. He didn't want to make anyone in mx feel he would override their boss. Please trust me when I say EVERY day I flew in the ANG after that, and every day I met my squadron after jumpseating out on my own airline, I savored every single moment. The stupidity and *****-ness factor went down 95%, but the flying, the great people, and the sense of mission remained. The fact I even give a crap TIB is a mort 8 years after I retired is probably a good glimpse into who much hate swirled around my inner core from those days. |
Mine started at SOS in residence (shoe clerk weapons school).
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Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 2034316)
Mine started at SOS in residence (shoe clerk weapons school).
I educated as many of the UPT students as I could. ;) |
So much talent, and the desire to simply entertain ...
And so much hatred ... No good deed ... . |
Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 2034316)
Mine started at SOS in residence (shoe clerk weapons school).
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