MV-22 Pilot - Mil to Civ - Roadmap advice?
#71
New Hire
Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 3
I really appreciate all the replies here thanks everybody, thanks.
I definitely understand that as an SNA, airlines should be the furthest thing from my mind right now, and the focus is on being the best well rounded pilot I can be. Otherwise it'd have been smarter to skip the military altogether and go straight into the airlines with this current hiring boom, but that wouldn't have scratched the military itch. It's still good I think to keep this long term goal in mind to set yourself up for it if/when the time comes, especially when it comes to the complications with V22 time.
I definitely understand that as an SNA, airlines should be the furthest thing from my mind right now, and the focus is on being the best well rounded pilot I can be. Otherwise it'd have been smarter to skip the military altogether and go straight into the airlines with this current hiring boom, but that wouldn't have scratched the military itch. It's still good I think to keep this long term goal in mind to set yourself up for it if/when the time comes, especially when it comes to the complications with V22 time.
#72
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 947
I really appreciate all the replies here thanks everybody, thanks.
I definitely understand that as an SNA, airlines should be the furthest thing from my mind right now, and the focus is on being the best well rounded pilot I can be. Otherwise it'd have been smarter to skip the military altogether and go straight into the airlines with this current hiring boom, but that wouldn't have scratched the military itch. It's still good I think to keep this long term goal in mind to set yourself up for it if/when the time comes, especially when it comes to the complications with V22 time.
I definitely understand that as an SNA, airlines should be the furthest thing from my mind right now, and the focus is on being the best well rounded pilot I can be. Otherwise it'd have been smarter to skip the military altogether and go straight into the airlines with this current hiring boom, but that wouldn't have scratched the military itch. It's still good I think to keep this long term goal in mind to set yourself up for it if/when the time comes, especially when it comes to the complications with V22 time.
Beg/borrow/steal/kill/whatever you gotta do to get IP orders to VT-31/35 after you do your grunt appreciation tour. Multi PIC/Stan quals/NATOPs are all there for the picking. Do some volunteering while you're there. Get 1000-1200 hours in a 2.5 year tour. Don't knock up the bartenders at the pelican or Farrahs.
T-6s are fun, but multi PIC time is mo betta.
#74
But either is going to be great, I certainly wouldn't turn down a USAFR slot.
Lot's of good info on baseops.net (caution: read before you post over there; have thick skin).
#75
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,091
Guard is generally best for those who want to fly part time, with minimal involvement in higher HQ staff duty and active duty BS.
But either is going to be great, I certainly wouldn't turn down a USAFR slot.
Lot's of good info on baseops.net (caution: read before you post over there; have thick skin).
But either is going to be great, I certainly wouldn't turn down a USAFR slot.
Lot's of good info on baseops.net (caution: read before you post over there; have thick skin).
#77
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2021
Position: MV-22
Posts: 8
Plopter guy where do I stand?
Looking for a rough gauge as to how a Marine V22 pilot like myself stands on going VFR direct into a major...and how can I improve my chances over the next 2 years? I understand the last year and a half has been pretty touch and go for the industry. I have 24 months until separation from active duty. Plan to attend the Delta ATP/CTP course spring of 2021.
Hours
-All: 1399.2 TPT (Will continue to log 100 hours each year until separation ~ min 1600 hours TPT by EAS)
-MV-22B: 1195.0 TPT / 550 ACMDR
-T-6B: 72.0 TPT
-TC-12B: 95.6 TPT
-TH-57B: 23.7 TPT
-TH-57C: 12.9 TPT
-Type rating in BE 200 (TC-12)
Marine Corps type quals/designations (I know these don't really translate over to civilian but they can't hurt)
-Flight Lead
-Weapons and Tactics Instructor
-Aviation Safety Officer
-Instrument Evaluator/CRMI
-DoSS/ASO/AOPSO/PTO for leadership ground jobs
Any suggestions, advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I know a couple V-22 guys that are in American or United but nothing near my immediate peer group as of now. Keeping my fingers crossed the trend continues for this community and the travel industry as a whole.
Hours
-All: 1399.2 TPT (Will continue to log 100 hours each year until separation ~ min 1600 hours TPT by EAS)
-MV-22B: 1195.0 TPT / 550 ACMDR
-T-6B: 72.0 TPT
-TC-12B: 95.6 TPT
-TH-57B: 23.7 TPT
-TH-57C: 12.9 TPT
-Type rating in BE 200 (TC-12)
Marine Corps type quals/designations (I know these don't really translate over to civilian but they can't hurt)
-Flight Lead
-Weapons and Tactics Instructor
-Aviation Safety Officer
-Instrument Evaluator/CRMI
-DoSS/ASO/AOPSO/PTO for leadership ground jobs
Any suggestions, advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I know a couple V-22 guys that are in American or United but nothing near my immediate peer group as of now. Keeping my fingers crossed the trend continues for this community and the travel industry as a whole.
#78
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,675
Looking for a rough gauge as to how a Marine V22 pilot like myself stands on going VFR direct into a major...and how can I improve my chances over the next 2 years? I understand the last year and a half has been pretty touch and go for the industry. I have 24 months until separation from active duty. Plan to attend the Delta ATP/CTP course spring of 2021.
Hours
-All: 1399.2 TPT (Will continue to log 100 hours each year until separation ~ min 1600 hours TPT by EAS)
-MV-22B: 1195.0 TPT / 550 ACMDR
-T-6B: 72.0 TPT
-TC-12B: 95.6 TPT
-TH-57B: 23.7 TPT
-TH-57C: 12.9 TPT
-Type rating in BE 200 (TC-12)
Marine Corps type quals/designations (I know these don't really translate over to civilian but they can't hurt)
-Flight Lead
-Weapons and Tactics Instructor
-Aviation Safety Officer
-Instrument Evaluator/CRMI
-DoSS/ASO/AOPSO/PTO for leadership ground jobs
Any suggestions, advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I know a couple V-22 guys that are in American or United but nothing near my immediate peer group as of now. Keeping my fingers crossed the trend continues for this community and the travel industry as a whole.
Hours
-All: 1399.2 TPT (Will continue to log 100 hours each year until separation ~ min 1600 hours TPT by EAS)
-MV-22B: 1195.0 TPT / 550 ACMDR
-T-6B: 72.0 TPT
-TC-12B: 95.6 TPT
-TH-57B: 23.7 TPT
-TH-57C: 12.9 TPT
-Type rating in BE 200 (TC-12)
Marine Corps type quals/designations (I know these don't really translate over to civilian but they can't hurt)
-Flight Lead
-Weapons and Tactics Instructor
-Aviation Safety Officer
-Instrument Evaluator/CRMI
-DoSS/ASO/AOPSO/PTO for leadership ground jobs
Any suggestions, advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I know a couple V-22 guys that are in American or United but nothing near my immediate peer group as of now. Keeping my fingers crossed the trend continues for this community and the travel industry as a whole.
The Osprey is a cool ride, but it blows my mind that you only expect a hundred hours a year.
#79
Looking for a rough gauge as to how a Marine V22 pilot like myself stands on going VFR direct into a major...and how can I improve my chances over the next 2 years? I understand the last year and a half has been pretty touch and go for the industry. I have 24 months until separation from active duty. Plan to attend the Delta ATP/CTP course spring of 2021.
Hours
-All: 1399.2 TPT (Will continue to log 100 hours each year until separation ~ min 1600 hours TPT by EAS)
-MV-22B: 1195.0 TPT / 550 ACMDR
-T-6B: 72.0 TPT
-TC-12B: 95.6 TPT
-TH-57B: 23.7 TPT
-TH-57C: 12.9 TPT
-Type rating in BE 200 (TC-12)
Marine Corps type quals/designations (I know these don't really translate over to civilian but they can't hurt)
-Flight Lead
-Weapons and Tactics Instructor
-Aviation Safety Officer
-Instrument Evaluator/CRMI
-DoSS/ASO/AOPSO/PTO for leadership ground jobs
Any suggestions, advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I know a couple V-22 guys that are in American or United but nothing near my immediate peer group as of now. Keeping my fingers crossed the trend continues for this community and the travel industry as a whole.
Hours
-All: 1399.2 TPT (Will continue to log 100 hours each year until separation ~ min 1600 hours TPT by EAS)
-MV-22B: 1195.0 TPT / 550 ACMDR
-T-6B: 72.0 TPT
-TC-12B: 95.6 TPT
-TH-57B: 23.7 TPT
-TH-57C: 12.9 TPT
-Type rating in BE 200 (TC-12)
Marine Corps type quals/designations (I know these don't really translate over to civilian but they can't hurt)
-Flight Lead
-Weapons and Tactics Instructor
-Aviation Safety Officer
-Instrument Evaluator/CRMI
-DoSS/ASO/AOPSO/PTO for leadership ground jobs
Any suggestions, advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I know a couple V-22 guys that are in American or United but nothing near my immediate peer group as of now. Keeping my fingers crossed the trend continues for this community and the travel industry as a whole.
Have you reached out to any of those V-22 dudes at the legacies (hint hint)? They’re certainly going to have more expertise and precise (proven) advice regarding your question than the random folks who post on this forum.
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#80
Not specific to a tilt rotor guy, but I would focus on doing whatever you can to maximize total flight hours over the next two years. Additionally, pick up as many evaluator/instructor/leadership type roles you can. Your timing may be perfect if hiring truly ramps up across the board. If so, you might have a good shot at the legacies, SWA, FedEx, and UPS. Failing that, you should be very attractive to many of the LCCs. Worst case, maybe a touch and go at a regional, but regardless ensure you have financially prepared your family for the transition.
The Osprey is a cool ride, but it blows my mind that you only expect a hundred hours a year.
The Osprey is a cool ride, but it blows my mind that you only expect a hundred hours a year.
Unfortunately, that’s about right. The USMC V-22 community doesn’t average a ton of flight time. Multiple reasons, one of which is we do the same missions as our predecessor aircraft in 1/2 the time, but there are other less glamorous reasons as well.
And really, this is what holds some V-22 folks back from going direct to the majors right after their initial contract: the quantity of flight time, nothing to do with the nature of the aircraft (anymore.)
Not sure if ole’ SWA is still the sole holdout, but all the other majors/legacies are on board due to the last few years of pure-bred V-22 pilots who have passed through with no issues. So the above advice is solid.
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