bobble

Any way to get flight school orders? Knab ANI and FLSE too (if you're not already). I'm assuming if you're a Capt WTI, that's a firm no, and if you're a Major, that's a hell no. But that and station pilot are worth an ask if you're going to separate anyway. I'm not an airline pilot but I'm a plopter dude trying to do the same thing as you.

Onthedownstops

Thanks again guys for the replies. Yes unfortunately V-22 time can be hard to come by still. Some fleet units are higher than others, also largely depends on where someone is at in the different syllabi. My current unit is averaging about 100-150 hrs per year for each tiltrotor guy. I recently spoke with a friend who is on with a major and has some experience making the V-22 jump. He recommended I begin applying to all the majors I'm interested in about 6-12 months prior to separation. Recommended doing the mil conversion for CFI and CFII. Volunteer hours also help. Reserves is another goal of mine to help with complex hours and bridge the gap in the event of another black swan event/cushion the transition between careers. I was able to get ANI so I'm good on that front, FLSE is probably unlikely for me.

Big wickets for me over the next two years
-ATP/CTP
-CFI/CFII
-Volunteer hours
-convert logbook to electronic
-Start with Airlineapps.com for United / Delta (earlier the better for the profile creation)
-LinkedIn profile / networking
-12 months prior begin applying

B727DRVR

To all you MV-22/standard rotor ballers out there, flyExclusive is EXTREMELY rotor/MV-22 friendly. I would hazard to guess that over 10 percent of our pilot corps are represented by retired/Reserve/Guard Army, Marine, and Naval Aviators and that includes one of our Recruiters and an Assistant Chief Pilot. Our ACP and several recruiters will proudly be attending RTAG on Oct. 22-24, and they intend to do on-site screenings and interviews. We do require the ATP-CTP course and ATP Written completed, as they want you to be PIC typed with an ATP the day you get your type rating. But I believe that ATP Flight School offers a Military discount and a discount if you are coming to us. Reach out to Ashley P over there for more details.

We offer a fixed 8/6 or 15/13 schedule and have the most flexible home basing policy in the Part 135 industry, allowing you to live almost anywhere you want.. (and I'm talking Enterprise, AL, Springfield, MO, Lake of the Ozarks, Jacksonville, NC, etc. LOL). We are growing exponentially and are one of the few aviation Companies on the Planet that actually did not furlough, terminate, or shut down during Covid-19 and actually grew.

The MV-22 is a small community, so you all might know one of your own that works here, callsign "CHA##", USMC.

Go to the Part 135 profiles page here on APC (which is almost updated with all the changes) or you can go to our website at flyexclusive.com to apply and see what we offer. Our Compensation and working conditions have literally been improving monthly as the Company seeks to recruit and retain good pilots and Brand Ambassadors. If you want to avoid the Regional grind as you enter Civilian aviation, check us out and look for us at RTAG next month: I will be there along with one each of our Army and Marine Recruiters, and we look forward to meeting you all. Feel free to PM me and I will get back to you as soon as I can. I get a LOT of PM's, LOL.

Thank you all for your Service to our Nation.

ipdanno

I would not think you need to convert any military hours to an electronic log book. For the applications, you WILL have to convert your hours to civilian time, IAW each airline’s directives. But the airlines generally have high confidence in military flight admin-produced flight records. After 20+ years of AF/AFR flying, I handed in the stapled, AFORMS-generated three page flight summary of my hours, along with the requested Flight Evaluation jacket. The Logbook Review captain looked at the summary, punched numbers into her calculator, reviewed my application totals, and said “I come up with more PIC hours than you have on your application.... and that’s the way we like it. Now, Tell Me About A Time....”
If you have some non-mil flying you need to present, you might convert to electronic. But unless a specific airline requires military time be put into electronic Logbook, don’t waste your time.

I would also strongly encourage ‘rushing’ Air National Guard and AF Reserve units across the country. My reserve unit hired folks from all weapons systems, and all branches. AF/USN/USMC/ARNG/USCG. Pointy airplanes, cargo, rotor, even a Harrier pilot (He was prolly the most chill dude in the unit). Having a reserve mil job during your transition is a great fallback, and provides more networking opportunities. As long as you’re not a... dork. Start calling units 12 months out, go visit, bring beer and/or donuts. Good luck.

flyinthrew

You need an electronic logbook just to parse the 90 different flight times between your 7+ apps. That, and if your 7041s are anything like ours your logbook is going to be a hot mess. Good luck. Lean hard on your network. That’s why they’re there.

Onthedownstops

I will take a look at flyExclusive. This is great news that the company is so pro V-22 time. I do know CHA**, we were in sister squadrons back in our fleet days. Ended up flying him jumpseat a couple months back in the 22 for an event we were helping him with. Happy to hear he found a good home for the time being. Thanks for the support. I'll be in touch sometime in the near future.

Onthedownstops

Thanks for the support. This is great news to hear that flyExclusive is so pro V-22 pilots. I do know CHA**, we were in sister fleet squadrons. Ended up flying him jumpseat in the 22 a couple months back. Thanks for the great post, helps open up doors previously unknown. Wish I could attend RTAG but I'll be out of the country for work.

MTSTCK

So I had an interesting experience during a phone screening today with a regional carrier. I was invited to an interview with one regional airline yesterday but today I was told no from another airline due to not meeting R-ATP requirements. I currently have the 750 TT and 200 XC time, but was told my PIC time in the V22 did not meet the requirement. I am at 160 total PIC time (150 in the V22) and well over 500 SIC to combine for 250 PIC. I was told that my PIC time would not count because it was V22 time. Is V22 time not counting towards an ATP?

rickair7777

FAR 61.159(a)(5)

250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or when serving as a required second in command flightcrew member performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof, which includes at least -

(i) 100 hours of cross-country flight time; and

(ii) 25 hours of night flight time.



The PIC needs to be in an "Airplane" which in this context refers to the formal FAA categories. I'm 99.9% sure that V-22 is Powered Lift, not Airplane, per the FAA.

Read 61.159 carefully. Most of the aeronautical experience requirements can be met in any category (ex the 1500 total time), but not the PIC.

Might need some cessna time.

trip

The first few posts in this thread covered this pretty extensively, like Rickair said, 250 needs to be in an airplane.
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